[meteorite-list] THE ODDS OF LIFE
From: MexicoDoug_at_aol.com <MexicoDoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Jul 20 13:09:48 2005 Message-ID: <1dc.40e6de9d.300fdf3c_at_aol.com> Sterling W. wrote: >The key has to be that the creation of life was NOT a random >process. For every molecule that fits a template, millions did not. >That's a selective mechanism, not a random one. If you allow a strong >selective effect at every step instead of random chance, it's done in >short order, IF there is a preferred pathway. Hola Sterling, The answer you seek has been mostly written...If you have the time, I highly recommend picking up a copy of this book and meandering through its delightful respect for the accomplishments of biology, but at the same time, its brazen and bold disregard for the groupthink in the field. The implications are more limited by your imagination than the pages upon which it is written! "The Origins of Order: Self-Organization and Selection in Evolution" by Stuart Kauffman What is "primitive" life other than a continuous process, soap bubble-like filled micelle of catalysts with linked reactant intermediates? And is it any wonder at all that such bags of plasm form, considering they are the structures, by definition [of life], with the property of non-equilibrium homeostasis, after countless other reactions, well - react, i.e.,"die". We've glorified primitive life to religious proportions, yet I think it is much an overrated miracle. While you wait for that landmark discovery that life evolved or can be made to evolve more than once (whether it comes from out of this world of from our own Earth right under our noses), an accepting humanity will take it in stride, go to work tomorrow, still elect lousy politicians, and folks like us will need to find new topics to stay happily entertained just over the edge of chaos. What surprises me is your take on the significance of a confirmation of a so-far hypothetical confirmation of panspermia. While you seem fine with the possibility of seeding life throughout the universe, you think it doesn't do much except transfer the "problem" of creation elsewhere. While this may be true, I believe the sheepdogs have tricked you into drinking from their tainted watering hole. Did you know that your own red blood cells lack DNA and are anaerobic (utilizing glucose and no oxygen in solution, not aerobic (Krebs cycle) respiration to generate energy)? Your red cells are alive, right? Really, finding (viruses), bacteria, yeasts, perhaps fungi and other primitive bags of reactants developing elsewhere with at least RNA won't solve THE QUESTION to forgetful and greedy human satisfaction, as THE QUESTION has become somewhat of a moving target. It used to be: What started life on Earth? Think about human nature - so accepting (as long as not under threat by killer alien microbes) I say we best learn to solve the simple harmonic oscillator problem before asking questions of the Gods around the Universe and stick to this original question. Not that a foray into a generalized THE QUESTION isn't entertaining and informative - it is. But if we take the attitude of minimizing the significance of the problems and true progress which is within our grasp and possibly during our lifetime, we'll just remain an unsatisfied bunch. Ah, the destiny of human spirit:( Getting back to proving the Andromeda Strain that spontaneously appeared in another galaxy ... sure it'll cause a bigger impact than Surveyor 3's bacteria which could have survived on the Moon for a few years. But how much bigger? Don't hold your breath. A bag of cytoplasm proven to have been hatched in a far off galaxy will not impress the average person on the street any more than one bug delivered ambiguously on a meteorite. Afterall we've known you can deep freeze yeast and nematodes for years, and they come back to life... THE QUESTION will just move to become, ok, we have proof of concept once, twice, whatever. Now where's the extraterrestrial beef? Those bags of wierd enzymes are one thing, but THE QUESTION will always has been, can they organize, intercommunicate and form conscious beings with souls? And the closedminded will say - only on Earth. The visionaries will say - In the name of Copernicus, get over it! And some will be burned at the stake by the experts of their day. Saludos, Doug Received on Wed 20 Jul 2005 01:09:16 PM PDT |
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