[meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620 classification ? **

From: Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Jan 5 18:51:48 2005
Message-ID: <001b01c4f381$989af780$0200a8c0_at_S0031628003>

Adam, I guess, the thing that is hard to understand is that NWA 2620 will be
published in the next bulletin is an Olivine Diogenite.
Now are you confused yet?
You seem so sure of it, yet I sent you proof that the same scientist gave
that name to my meteorite, seems to have geven you the same name, you simply
ignored it.
I am trying to get to the root of an obvious error, you seem to say that
anyone else be damned, you are right and everyone else is wrong.
Let's work together here and find out where the mistake is.
Mike Farmer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620 classification ? **


> This is my last comment for now on the subject. NWA 2620 will be
> published
> in the very next bulletin as an H4, Main Mass Hupe Collection. No ifs,
> ands
> or buts about it. Why is so hard to understand?
>
> All the best,
>
> Adam
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Strope" <jim_at_catchafallingstar.com>
> To: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>; "Adam Hupe"
> <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 3:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620 classification ? **
>
>
>> David Weir References NWA 2620 in the following webpage on NWA 2115:
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/~dweir/protected_NWA2115.HTM
>>
>>
>> Jim Strope
>> 421 Fourth Street
>> Glen Dale, WV 26038
>>
>> http://www.catchafallingstar.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>> To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>;
>> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620 classification ?
>> **
>>
>>
>> > Adam, that explains nothing other than the simple fact the it seems
>> > that
> a
>> > scientist has assigned the same number to two different meteorites.
>> > Mike Farmer
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
>> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 3:39 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620 classification ?
> **
>> >
>> >
>> >> Here is a link, scroll down to NWA 2620:
>> >> http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/Meteorite/H-Chond.html
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards,
>> >>
>> >> Adam
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>> >> To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>;
>> >> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:42 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620 classification
>> >> ?
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Adam, then explaine the email below, clearly a mistake has been made,
>> >>> have
>> >>> you spoken to Ted?
>> >>> I am doing this publicly since the question was raied here and I have
>> >>> sold
>> >>> many pieces of the NWA 2620 Olivine Diogenite.
>> >>> Michael Farmer
>> >>> I have called Ted today, with no answer.
>> >>>
>> >>> Email dated 12 December 2004
>> >>> "Mike: below and attached are the classifications that I can do for
> now.
>> >>> Have a
>> >>> good trip.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ted
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> NWA 2620 (F5)
>> >>>
>> >>> Yellowish-green to brown, friable olivine diogenite. with
> orthopyroxene
>> >>> grains up to 21 mm in size; rare olivine grains. Unzoned olivine,
>> >>> Fa28.0;
>> >>> FeO/MgO = 44; orthopyroxene, Fs23.4Wo1.5; FeO/MnO = 24.9; chromite,
> cr#
>> >>> =
>> >>> 87; mg# = 19.4. Also contains minor metal (Ni = 0.29 wt %; Co = 0.59
> wt
>> >>> %)
>> >>> and troilite. No plagioclase was observed. Shock level is S2-3;
> lightly
>> >>> to
>> >>> moderately weathered. Likely paired with NWA 1877.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> NWA 2631 (F7)
>> >>>
>> >>> H5: Fa19.2; S1 W1
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> NWA 2632 (F8)
>> >>>
>> >>> LL3.2: Fa1.1-37.4; (Cr2O3 = 0.15-0.37; mean = 0.33 wt %); S1 W1.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> NWA 2633 (F9)
>> >>>
>> >>> CO3.1: Fa 7.7 ? 44.2 (Cr2O3 = 0.05-0.34 wt %); S1 W2; contains many
>> >>> small
>> >>> CAI inclusions.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> NWA 2634 (F10)
>> >>>
>> >>> Ureilite, mosaicized type; olivine cores, Fa21.4, rims Fa11.1;
>> >>> pigeonite,
>> >>> Fs18.8 Wo9.9; augite, Fs17.0 Wo16.6; vein metal, 4.3 wt % Ni. Highly
>> >> shocked
>> >>> with pyroxenes reduced to mosaic texture, olivine less so. Shock
>> >>> level
>> >>> is
>> >> S5
>> >>> and low weathering grade.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> NWA 2635 (F11)
>> >>>
>> >>> H7: extremely rare meteorite, only two known outside of Antarctica;
>> >>> highly
>> >>> equilibrated and recrystallized. Olivine = Fa18.9, FeO/MnO = 37.7
>> >>> (compositional range within the precision of the microprobe).
>> >> Orthopyroxene,
>> >>> Fs16.1 Wo3.7; metal, Ni = 17.3 wt %; troilite, Ni = 1.40wt %. S1 W2.
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
>> >>> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 3:12 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620 classification
> ?
>> >>> **
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >I checked it out before posting earlier. NWA2620 in an H4.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Kind Regards,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Adam
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> > From: "Jim Strope" <jim_at_catchafallingstar.com>
>> >>> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:13 PM
>> >>> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620
> classification
>> >>> > ?
>> >> **
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Seems to me since you are so short on time, one email to Ted is
> more
>> >>> >> advantageous than playing email ping pong with Adam. Why not let
> the
>> >>> >> Scientist clear it up?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Jim Strope
>> >>> >> 421 Fourth Street
>> >>> >> Glen Dale, WV 26038
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> http://www.catchafallingstar.com
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> >> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>> >>> >> To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>;
>> >>> >> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:07 PM
>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620
> classification
>> >>> >> ?
>> >>> >> **
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > And?
>> >>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> >> > From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
>> >>> >> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> >>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:49 PM
>> >>> >> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620
>> >>> >> > classification
>> >> ?
>> >>> > **
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>I did check it out.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Adam
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> >> >> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>> >>> >> >> To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>;
>> >>> >> >> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> >>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:59 PM
>> >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620
>> >> classification
>> >>> >> >> ?
>> >>> >> >> **
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>> Adam, I suggest you contact Ted Bunch, he assigned me NWA 2620
>> >>> >> >>> for
>> >> my
>> >>> >> >>> olivine diogenite.
>> >>> >> >>> I am leaving in 40 hours so I have no time to do it.
>> >>> >> >>> Mike
>> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> >> >>> From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
>> >>> >> >>> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> >>> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:55 PM
>> >>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620
>> >> classification
>> >>> > ?
>> >>> >> >>> **
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> > NWA 2620 is not an olivine diogenite, it is an H4, Main mass
>> >>> >> >>> > Hupe
>> >>> >> >>> > Collection. NWA 1827 was studied at the University of
>> >>> >> >>> > Washington
>> >>> > not
>> >>> >> >> NAU
>> >>> >> >>> > which was reported in error to the List previously.
> Scientist
>> >> read
>> >>> >> >>> > this
>> >>> >> >>> > List so be careful about what is being put out in print.
>> >>> >> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>> > All the best,
>> >>> >> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>> > Adam
>> >>> >> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> >> >>> > From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>> >>> >> >>> > To: "Pel? Pierre-Marie" <pierremariepele_at_yahoo.fr>;
>> >> "MeteoriteList"
>> >>> >> >>> > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> >>> >> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:21 AM
>> >>> >> >>> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620
>> >>> > classification
>> >>> >> >>> > ?
>> >>> >> >> **
>> >>> >> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> Pierre, clearly an error on their part. I will contact Dr
>> >>> >> >>> >> Bunch
>> >>> >> >>> >> and
>> >>> >> >> have
>> >>> >> >>> > it
>> >>> >> >>> >> looked into.
>> >>> >> >>> >> Mike
>> >>> >> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> >> >>> >> From: "Pel? Pierre-Marie" <pierremariepele_at_yahoo.fr>
>> >>> >> >>> >> To: "MeteoriteList" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> >>> >> >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:18 PM
>> >>> >> >>> >> Subject: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620
>> >> classification
>> >>> >> >>> >> ?
>> >>> >> >>> >> **
>> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>> >> > Hello to the List members.
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> > I've a question about the classification of NWA 1942
>> >>> >> >>> >> > and NWA 2620.
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> > NWA 1942 is mostly known as a howardite but I found it
>> >>> >> >>> >> > was classified as a L4 by NAU Laboratory in 2004*.
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> > NWA 2620 is known as a diogenite but was classified by
>> >>> >> >>> >> > NAU as a H4 in 2004*.
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> > * these 2 classifications will be published in next
>> >>> >> >>> >> > MetBul (nr 89) by NAU.
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> > Is this a problem of numbers (maybe two laboratories
>> >>> >> >>> >> > used the same NWA number for different meteorites).
>> >>> >> >>> >> > How are determined the range of NWA numbers and are
>> >>> >> >>> >> > they assigned to a single laboratory by the NomCom ?
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> > Thanks a lot for your help,
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> > Pierre-Marie PELE
>> >>> >> >>> >> > www.meteor-center.com
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
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