[meteorite-list] Nice CAI in a CV3

From: John Birdsell <birdsell_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Feb 8 23:19:25 2005
Message-ID: <42098F4B.7070308_at_email.arizona.edu>

Hi Martin, Rob and everyone! Yes, it could be a crucible shaped CAI with
chondritic material within the bowl shaped depression. The American
Museum of Natural History is studying this specimen and they think it
may be a radically deformed crucible shaped CAI. I will try to post a
copy of the abstract on the website as soon as possible. They have not
yet performed X-ray tomography, but I am told that this will be one of
the analyses performed, and this could reveal whether it is crucible
shaped or spherical. Having cut the series of slices accross this CAI I
believe that it could definitely be spherical. I think that this may be
a more likely scenerio than a fluke dissection for another reason-there
are more than one donut shaped CAIs having chondritic material within it
in this same stone. It would be very unlikely for me to have
accidentally cut two different CAIs to produce this same very unusual
effect.


Cheers


-John



Martinh wrote:

> Hi all CAI lovers,
>
> Looking at the jelly doughnut (chondrule-filled CAI), I wondered if
> the appearance could be misleading. I have seen some CAIs that are
> rather convoluted meaning in a 3-D view, they might form a cone or
> other shape where if cut along the right plane, it would appear as if
> the CAI was completely surrounding the chondrules, but in reality,
> the chondrule material is actually inside more of a CAI pipe or ice
> cream cone. Therefore in a cross-section, say through the top of an
> ice cream cone, it would appear that the cone material was completely
> encasing the ice cream, but in reality, it is not.
>
> Just some thoughts when looking at a wonderful collection of CAIs
> from around the world. This is what makes this list fun!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin H
>
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:25 PM, Rob Wesel wrote:
>
>> I have enjoyed every one of these as NWA 3118 is a favorite of mine
>> but John's in particular begs the question:
>>
>> If CAI's are the oldest things out there then how does chondritic
>> material get completely encapsulated inside of one?
>>
>> We have a lot to learn from this meteorite.
>>
>> Rob Wesel
>> http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
>> ------------------
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>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Birdsell"
>> <birdsell_at_email.arizona.edu>
>> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Nice CAI in a CV3
>>
>>
>>> Hello Martin and Matteo....Those are definitely nice CAIs, but
>>> definitely check out the CAI at this link!!!
>>>
>>> http://www.arizonaskiesmeteorites.com/AZ_Skies_Links/NWA_2364/
>>> index.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> -John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is others nice CAI's in my NWA CV
>>>>
>>>> http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/NWA1807.JPG
>>>>
>>>> http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/NWA2180gr.8.9.JPG
>>>>
>>>> Matteo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- Martinh <martinh_at_isu.edu> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> At the Tucson show, I picked up a nice NWA end
>>>>> section with a wonderful CAI. I know, I know, its not an historic
>>>>> L6, but it
>>>>> is pretty cool anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I do talks about the solar system, I like to
>>>>> pass around a CAI for the obvious reasons. Now I can hold one up
>>>>> in front
>>>>> of a class and everyone can see it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some pics of the piece:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://challenge.isu.edu/nwa2086.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Notice the smaller CAI island that drifted off the
>>>>> mainland, looking somewhat like Madagascar off the east coast of
>>>>> Africa.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts on the CAI would be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy viewing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin H
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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