AW: [meteorite-list] Is Brahin a ruster ?
From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <mcomemeteorite2004_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Feb 8 16:37:00 2005 Message-ID: <20050208213658.67539.qmail_at_web50104.mail.yahoo.com> Contact this person, its where I send my pieces "BGG (Blue Grama Gifts)/ Skymerchant Meteorics" <bgg_skymerchant_at_hotmail.com> Matteo --- Lars Pedersen <lbp_at_privat.tdcadsl.dk> ha scritto: > Yes maybe it should be put into some kind of acrylic > resin. > > Does anyone know what to use, and how to do it. > > It is a 530 gram full slice aprox. 21 x 17 > centimeters. > > Just a thin layer ? > > Or a block like you sometine see seascales in a > acrylic block ? > > Best > Lars > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" > <mcomemeteorite2004_at_yahoo.it> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Is Brahin a ruster > ? > > > > For me the unique method for save the pallasites > from > > rusty is put this into a acrilic resin without > air. > > > > Matteo > > > > --- J?rn Koblitz <koblitz_at_microfab.de> ha scritto: > >> Hi List, > >> > >> back in the 1980s, I got a large, beautiful > Admire > >> slice. I kept it at low humidity and also added > >> corrosion inhibitor to the bag in which the slice > >> was wrapped in. During the first 10 years I > checked > >> for signs of rust from time to time. It was okay, > no > >> rust, very stable. So, I kept it alone (same > storage > >> conditions) until one year ago, when I look at it > >> again. Well, the pallasite was in the state of > >> disintegration, heavily rusted, olivines pressed > out > >> of the metal grid. What I want to say is, that > even > >> after so long time of stability, one can never be > >> sure. I think, one has to check the state of such > a > >> known ruster more often. If any sign of rust, > >> especially swallowing of olivine grains, one has > to > >> start corrective actions immediately (e.g. > >> neutralization of acids, drying...). Rusting is a > >> self-accelerating process, once it has started. > If a > >> meteorite is known as a ruster (like Brahin, > >> Brenham, Admire), be very careful! > >> > >> I am presently developing a special method of > >> treatment to remove all the salts (the source of > the > >> mess) from such corrosion sensitive irons and > >> pallasite specimens. I hope, with such reatment, > >> then these rusters are sufficiently stabilized > for > >> the time being. > >> > >> J?rn > >> > >> > >> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > >> > Von: Martin Altmann > >> [mailto:Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de] > >> > Gesendet: Montag, 7. Februar 2005 23:35 > >> > An: Lars Pedersen; > >> meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > >> > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Is Brahin a > ruster ? > >> > > >> > > >> > Hi Lars, > >> > > >> > Brahin is untreated a hefty ruster like > Brenham. > >> > With two of the main suppliers of Brahin I made > >> the experience > >> > that Afanasjev (cometshop) did a good job in > >> varnishing his slices. > >> > My oldest slice from him I had for almost 7 > years > >> without any problems > >> > and many others I had in stock for 2years and > more > >> without > >> > developping a > >> > single trace of rust. > >> > Once I was curios, grinded off the varnish and > the > >> slice > >> > started to rust and > >> > to swell within a few weeks. > >> > > >> > >From the other supplier Koutyrev (finmet) I > know > >> only, that > >> > he advertized > >> > his slices in former times to be stabilized > with a > >> "new > >> > method" and with the > >> > gimmick, that you can keep them even in salt > water > >> without any effect. > >> > I never took from his Brahins, but heard from > >> several of my collector > >> > fellows as well as from some dealers too, that > >> they were > >> > indeed stable and > >> > goody-goody. > >> > > >> > To be sure, one should choose a member of the > >> > Eagle-Station-grouplet, with > >> > their 15%+ Ni, they should be the most stable > ones > >> among all > >> > pallasites, but > >> > they are difficult to get and not even cheap... > >> > > >> > Cheers! > >> > Martin > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Lars Pedersen" <lbp_at_privat.tdcadsl.dk> > >> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> > >> > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:52 PM > >> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Is Brahin a ruster ? > >> > > >> > > >> > > Hello All > >> > > Thanks for you show reports and poictures, I > >> enjoy them. > >> > > > >> > > I have just traded for a big fullslice of > >> Brahin. > >> > > > >> > > Is it a ruster ? > >> > > How do I prevent ? > >> > > etc. etc. ? > >> > > > >> > > Best > >> > > Lars > >> > > > >> > -------------------------------------------------- > >> > > > >> > > New meteorite forum: > >> > > > >> > > http://www.worldofmeteorites.com/ > >> > > > ______________________________________________ > >> > > Meteorite-list mailing list > >> > > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > >> > > > >> > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > > >> > ______________________________________________ > >> > Meteorite-list mailing list > >> > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > >> > > >> > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > > >> ______________________________________________ > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > >> > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > > > > ===== > > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato > > Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, > ITALY > > Email: mcomemeteorite2004_at_yahoo.it > > Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it > > Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info > > International Meteorite Collectors Association > #2140 > > MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com > > > EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ > === message truncated === ===== M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: mcomemeteorite2004_at_yahoo.it Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___________________________________ Nuovo Yahoo! 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