[meteorite-list] The Scorpion and the Turtle wasList policiesand ad posts thoughts

From: Dawn & Gerald Flaherty <grf2_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Aug 4 19:17:33 2005
Message-ID: <048801c5994a$a247a0c0$6502a8c0_at_GerryLaptop>

Well Elton, your accomplished prose succeeded in driving me to read THE
WHOLE THING!
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "E. L. Jones" <jonee_at_epix.net>
To: "AL Mitterling" <almitt_at_kconline.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Scorpion and the Turtle wasList
policiesand ad posts thoughts


> AL Mitterling wrote:
> Hi Robert, Jerry and list,
>
> >Might I suggest?? dividing the list into areas of interests. We could
> have topics like: Meteorite Information, Meteorite >Questions, Meteorite
> discussion, Meteorite AD's, New Members Area, etc. and so forth. (other
> ideas would be up to list >members)
>
> This can be the Meteorite Fables, complete with morals and talking
animals
>
> Or how about we just shun the aberrant personality until he leaves for
> good? Boycott buying and selling to him and he might find another
> community to self destruct in. I still remember the wenching Joel
> Warren brought to this group. this Sscorpion is more damaging.
>
> It isn't "ads" per se, it is that the integrity of the community is
> breeched by a personality that holds himself as an honest, uprigh,
> leading member of the community and to my knowledge has NEVER kept his
> word on anything EVER posted to the list-and 90% of what goes on off the
> list. That is am impressive track record for someone who has over 800
> posts to the list. The list isn't any different from real life--The
> members desire to associate only with persons of integrity and who they
> feel safe with and who isn't taking advantage of their hospitality.
> Some of those members are beginning to vote with their feet. I may soon
> join them. I happen to believe that you don't drop your guard around
> philosophical scorpions you'll be prey of you'll spend most of you
> energy defending friends from being preyed upon
>
> My objections are the repeated pattern of unethical behavior , mind game
> manipulation, and the theft of enjoyment he brings to the community
> using WWF Smackdown Tactics of playing everyone off against another.
> Some people aren't happy unless they can influence the way of things and
> this particular individual choses to do so by destroying and
> disrupting-- He is a scorpion it is just his nature. It always has been
> and always will be--it is just his nature--it- is -j u s t-- h i s --n a
> t u r e.. It isn't going to change. This Sscorpion doesn't act with
> malice, it is just his way, it is the standard he lives by and It is
> nothing personal-- it is just who and what he is.
>
> Sstamp out Sscorpions!
>
> Elton
>
> For those unfamiliar with the fable...
> The Sscorpion and the Turtle...(adaptation by EJ)
>
> In rising tide waters a turtle was preparing to raft the whole community
> of creatures on MetList-island to another shore when the group was
> approached by a scorpion for a ride too. The turtle is taken back for
> he knows of the deadly insidious ven-AD-om of the arachnid-- he has seen
> the scorpion often inject others with his ven-AD-om All his life he was
> taught to avoid the beast and his kind for their treachery was well known.
>
> "Ahem.... Dear Turtle! ole buddy! ole pal...how about a piggy-back ride
> to dry land lest I drown? I am a lowly innocent loving caring, team
> player amongst the creatures here on MetList-Island ! I am generous
> beyond imagination, and in spite of my appearances I assure you I am
> harmless...A true leader amongst purveyors of phony er precious pieces
> of plasmasphere particles ...Why.. you hear from me daily so you
> shouldn't have any worrys about me and my reputation--Surely You don't
> pay attention to the things you've read about my private behaviors " as
> he preened his pinchers and thought to himself.." How can anyone resist
> my Cc-charm? I am sooo coooool and these are chumps for the picking if
> you suck up to them"
>
> Shaking his head no, Turtle speaks up..."Oh No! Sscorpion. If I gave
> you a ride and you stung me in the river we'd all die. And you are
> certainly preceded by your reputation over and over again. The older
> turtles who started this island have often spoken of the risk and urged
> me to never associate with Sscorpions."
>
> "Ah my Dear Turtle, ole buddy, dearest friend..I can see I can't fool
> you...Yes I was once a piggish brute but I promise I'll never be that
> way again-- cross my heart and hope to die..Why if I am not who I say I
> am...I banish myself from this community! But you wouldn't want me to
> be left here alone and without friends. Why even if I have been a
> piggish cad , a egotistical heel, a sycophant lier AND have broken
> every deal I have ever uttered and have never done pentance...I promise
> I'd never ever harm you...I am changed-- You are one of my Sspecial
> friends. You CAN tust me THIS time. I'll trade ya this lovely morsel of
> starrock...if you'll like me and give me a free lunch er free ride to
> dryer ground" he seductively whispered. "Frankly, I am totally
> misunderstood and am persecuted without reason." Sscorpion confided to
> all that wouls listen. "I really need your sympathy and
> understanding." "How about a ride? ", he presses. " My Ven-AD-om is
> harmless and it really isn't my choice it is just what I am... you
> don't have to take it if you choose not to-- just walk around it and
> stay clear of my sPAMtinger when you see it swinging. It isn't my
> responsibility to control its gyrations-- afterall this is a free
> country, well at least I am not paying for it.. tee.hee hee and I can
> let it swing where it wishes Nana naa naaaa naaaa--it is just who I am
> ("delete it if you are not interested" echos off a nearby clift). The
> sPAMinger is simply an annoyance, it is how I eak a living, it is
> harmless-- in and of itself but I need to ego feed daily --it is just
> who I am."
>
> "No can do! If you were broke your word, I risk death to me and to all
> my friends" your ven-AD-om numbs the brain and sucks the joy from me
> and the stupor it brings would cause me to lose my strength and desire
> to carry on -- in water that is an assured death! Being around your
> fumes is harmful to me. I have to stay in my shell most of the time to
> avoid your sPAMtinger."
>
> With eyebrow raised, smirking mandable to mandable, Sscoripon looks his
> mark straight in the eye and says.." Yes but I give away star rocks!
> You love star rocks don't you?" Please give me a ride, Special
> Friend?" I promise I'll behave like the rest of the friendly turtles,
> you won't even know I am around."
>
> The other members on the ride were divided. Many who had been savaged
> by the Sscorpion's past treachery were firm in the danger to them all if
> the Sscorpion was allowed along.--expressing that if Sscorpion staid
> they would have to go elsewheres. But a few more scoffed.."Ahh what
> harm could he really do? Turtles' have a hard shell anyway... Aww come
> on give him a ride". The words were confusing to Turtle...but in the end
> the vocal minority won out and convinced Turtle to take Sscorpion
> along. Against his better judgment ,Turtle was persuaded to ferry the
> parasitic Sscorpion to another shore. Thirty minutes later in
> midwater, Turtle starts believeing Sscorpion-- lulled by Sscorpion's
> "passion", "enthusiasm", and child-like demeanor. " Awwww someone this
> sweet can't really be harmful. I'll trust him this once and give the
> fella a hitch" thinks , Turtle.
>
> Midway across , Turtel feels the thrashing of of the
> stinger...wham..wham wham. Horrified betrayed and bewildered the turtle
> eyes the Sscorpion and asked.."Why did you do that? You promised you
> wouldn't sting me...now we are all going to die".
>
> "I know" said Sscorpion without concern , remorse, or awareness of
> danger to the whole community he hath wrought " I know..." ..then
> another attack Wham- wham- wham... he stings again... Beyond belief,
> Turtle again asked "Why did you break your promise? You knew if you
> stung me we all would die, You've destroyed us all....Why....?"
>
> Sscorpion only shrugs his sshoulders and without remorse or emotion
> says.." I couldn't help myself, nothing personal...it is just my nature
> , it is who I am"
>
> When you assocate with Sscorpions-- knowing their behavior never
> changes it is not IF but WHEN you'll fall prey even if it takes you
> both down.
>
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