AW: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877

From: Jörn Koblitz <koblitz_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon Sep 13 09:05:58 2004
Message-ID: <E5E6112EA31FA24CB448E091C6883C050EBCCF_at_server2000.microfab.de>

Regarding the different procedure for e.g. NWA / Gao-Guenie - this issue was addressed
in an email by Jeff Grossman dated Sept. 9, 2004 (see below).

Gao-Guenie can be treated like Allende or Holbrook in this context as it doesn't apply to areas of dense meteorite concentration.

Cheers,
J?rn


EMAIL BY JEFF GROSSMAN - 09.09.2004
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The official policy of the Meteoritical Society, as determined by its
Nomenclature Committee, is that the name NWA 1110 only refers to the
material described under that name in Meteoritical Bulletin no. 86, which
has a total weight of 118 g. No other material should be called by that
name. It is acceptable and routine, however, for people to make statements
indicating that various numbered stones may be paired (although I would be
cautious about believing such statements unless they appear in the Bulletin
or other scientific publications).

All new NWA stones, even if apparently paired with something else, must get
their own numbers. This is the rule that applies to meteorites collected in
areas of dense meteorite concentration, including all of those known as NWA.
Note that this is NOT the same rule that applies if you find another piece
of Holbrook or Allende... those would inherit the same name unless they
could be proven to be separate meteorites.

The Committee is considering a new rule that would allow a new NWA stone to
be paired with NWA 1110. Under this rule, the new stone would have to be
given a provisional NWA number of its own, NWA xxxx. It would have to be
characterized by an expert, who would have to submit the evidence for
pairing to the NomCom. If accepted, and if the type specimen requirement
based on the aggregate mass has been satisfied, we would announce that NWA
xxxx was paired with NWA 1110, thereby increasing the TKW by a certain
amount. NWA xxxx would become an official synonym for NWA 1110. This rule
has not yet been adopted (it was open for public comment in the early
summer).

jeff

> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Meteoryt.net [mailto:marcin_at_meteoryt.net]
> Gesendet: Montag, 13. September 2004 12:35
> An: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877
>
>
> Hello List
> I can understand that when someone classyfy 200g as NWA4000 then other
> samples above this 200g can be or not the same material.
> But where is border beetween meteorites that can be sell without
> classification under "similar" NWA numbers and other, than
> can't be sold
> using NWA numbers that someone "own" ??
>
> If I CAN'T use NWA1110 and NWA1877 then maybe someone can
> explaine me why I
> CAN sell H chondrites from Burkina as Gao-Guenie without
> classification
> every kilo for example and noone screaming that Im Thief and
> sell untested
> material ? Where is the "owner" of Gao-Guenie name ? Why he is not
> screeaming ?
> Why noone screaming that Bob CANT sell his black peas as
> Amgala, becouse
> Ambala is a NWA number from Dr No with TKW 15kg and amgala from Bob is
> material not include in this 15kg?
> Or maybe this working only for meteorites 100$/g and more and
> everything
> below this price is not worth to write long letters? Or only
> this is only
> law for Hupes meteorites ? Only
>
>
> If we have any rules then why they fit only to rare meteorites and for
> example I can sell ANYTHING as Nwa869 and noone will say
> anything ? Ofcourse
> there is also another case. Its a confidence and honesty of
> every dealer.
> For example me, If I know that THIS IS Gao then I sell it as Gao.
>
> We have a good proverb in poland:
> If noone know what is the matter, then matter is money........
>
> PS. This email is not against Hupes. I like You guys.
>
> -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-----[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-----
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> http://www.PolandMET.com marcin_at_polandmet.com
> http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195
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