[meteorite-list] NWA 1110 issues

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Sep 9 14:06:29 2004
Message-ID: <01a401c49696$1cbc9bc0$6401a8c0_at_c1720188a>

Habibi,

We did not get NWA 1110 from you. If you remember correctly you sent us a
sample that you got from somebody else. We paid to have it tested and
confirmed it was Martian. We then paid for the entire lot which was sold
again to Nelson by you. You then pulled a bait and switch with a
terrestrial stone with us, do you recall this? Dr. Irving knows the entire
issue so do not make up any more. Who do you think tested the terrestrial
stone you sent? We then went to Marrir and purchased these fragments
directly from the Nomads who found them through our guide. None of NWA 1110
came from you. The Photos of NWA 1110 were taken here in the United States
and is copyrighted as part of the Hupe Collection. Habibi, it is time for
you to tell the truth. Have you ever been to Marrir, I don't think so
because you won't leave your cozy hotel in Erfued.

All the best,

Adam

----- Original Message -----
From: "aziz habibi" <aziz_habibi_at_hotmail.com>
To: <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 10:40 AM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] NWA 1110 issues


> adam wrote.................................
> Habibi of Morocco has been telling dealers he supplied us with NWA 1110
and
> so what he is selling is the same. This is not the truth as we do not do
> business with Habibi and never will. If you check the images below you
will
> see we went directly to the source and recorded GPS coordinates:
>
> dear list
> i had found nwa1110 and it's me who give the sample to dr tony irving via
> the hupes.
> the photo published in nasa website are made from my degital camera a
nikon
> collpix.
> any studies of the propritiey of the photo can proof that this photo is
mine
> well the real name who should have been advretised there is my name
> this an other problem ,( proprity of the data).
> so the stone published there are my stone and i stilll have them:
> so also i have prooof that its me who give the sample for depository.
> i have everthing with proofs and every emails abaout that .
>
> nwa1110 is a scientific name and everyone can use it ,
> if we do 100 classification this is confusing the collector and the wolrd
of
> meteorite.
> i think its enough problem in this list i do not see realy the interst to
> answer each day this story's
> what is the interst to say all this.
>
> the stone that are sold now are the real nwa1110; that's it and i have
proof
> of that
> if i have to answer again abaout this subject i willl put everything on
the
> table .
>
>
> let this list a little in peace and let us enjoy the real beautufull
hobies
> of this fantastic stones that make our life better
>
> the real nice thing that this meteorite bring me is that i love them and i
> find its good to collect them
> they bring a lot of adrelanine in my life and give me a good raison to
> collect them
> why we go always to the bad thing and bargaining abaout lie, why we do not
> dicuss the beuaty of the stone and hope that every collector get good
stone
> without jalousie.
>
> this is life and every one his chance.
> the most important is the meteorite and the hobies of collecting them
> ,that's it.
> why always lie , abaout such beautifull stone
>
> amgala than nwa1110 than nwa1877 than nwa 1836
> what else
> one day someone willl ask me if i m habibi or someone else.
>
> all the best
> aziz
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
> >To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1110 issues
> >Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 17:18:25 -0700
> >
> >Dear List,
> >
> >It has come to my attention that some sellers are still using the NWA
1110
> >designation to sell there untested material. It is not a marketing ploy
> >that I bring this up as we are nearly out of stock and we start all of
our
> >true NWA 1110 auctions out at just 99 cents. Here are the problems:
> >
> >We had Dr. Irving at the University of Washington authenticate every
piece
> >we have ever sold or plan to sell. All of it is recorded at 118 grams
can
> >be seen at the JPL/NASA Martian web site. Other dealers selling NWA 1110
> >have not gone to this expense We have only supplied one dealer from
> >Austria
> >with NWA 1110 and he is sold out.
> >
> >We paid the research and authentication costs associated with every piece
> >of
> >NWA 1110
> >
> >We deposited a type sample (something important if want your very own NWA
> >number)
> >
> >We paid the cost to go into the field, monitored the recovery efforts and
> >recorded GPS coordinates.
> >
> >Habibi of Morocco has been telling dealers he supplied us with NWA 1110
and
> >so what he is selling is the same. This is not the truth as we do not do
> >business with Habibi and never will. If you check the images below you
> >will
> >see we went directly to the source and recorded GPS coordinates:
> >
> >http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110a.jpg
> >
> >http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110b.jpg
> >
> >http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110c.jpg
> >
> >
> >http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110d.jpg
> >
> >To see auctions like the one I linked to below really irritates us
because
> >no laboratory has tested this material, the dealer should deposit a type
> >specimen, pay the lab fees and get his very own NWA number so that every
> >gram of meteorites paired to NWA 1068 can be recorded if they are indeed
> >meteorites.
> >
> >This is what I would like to say to the person running this ebay auction
> >"Stop using NWA 1110, get a real number, put out some effort, there is no
> >such thing as a free ride":
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2268561021
> >
> >Wishing everybody the best,
> >
> >Adam Hupe
> >The Hupe Collection
> >Team LunarRock
> >IMCA 2185
> >raremeteorites_at_comcast.net
> >
> >
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