[meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations

From: Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun Sep 5 15:16:41 2004
Message-ID: <00b801c4937c$e0587da0$0200a8c0_at_S0031628003>

John, Adam, and Greg, this thread went to far on all of our sides, it is
time to step back and enjoy a nice Sunday (with exception of Greg, who is
still very much in harms way).
None of this helps any of us, and as usual, I get a little too excited about
it all, when in the big scheme of the world, this little list means nothing.
I will take a break, relax, and am going to Panama to enjoy a nice vacation
with my wife, away from politics and meteorites soon.
    I have a ticket to Denver, but am not sure I will attend, as I am
literally exaughsted from the non-stop travel lately.
So all of you who are politically and meteoritically charged like I am, take
a break, and enjoy life.
Mike Farmer
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Birdsell" <birdsell_at_email.arizona.edu>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:59 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations


> Dear Adam. It appears to us that once again you are making accusations
> about other meteorite dealers without backing up any of your statements
> with facts. Not only is this unfair to those that you malign but it
> seems to be becoming a habit of yours. If you can not or will not back
> up your accusations with facts then don't make them in the first place.
> The meteorite list has a number of clearly defined polices, one of which
is:
>
> "Make sure you can back up statements with -facts and references-"
>
>
> Mike Farmer asked you to back up your allegations and we are all waiting
> for you to present the "Facts" that you seem to have conveniently omitted.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
> -John & Dawn
> Arizona Skies Meteorites
>
>
>
> Adam Hupe wrote:
>
> >Mike,
> >
> >You would make a great politician as you avoid the real issues and
address
> >others with lies. I am not going to entertain you any more because
frankly
> >Mike the truth will be out soon enough, IN A BIG WAY, and you will only
be
> >able to blame yourself. It is unfortunate that good people will have
been
> >taken along the way.
> >
> >Adam
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> >To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
> >Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:24 AM
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went
there,
> >>saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please tell
> >>
> >>
> >us?
> >
> >
> >>Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for
> >>tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had
> >>something to do with that? ANSWER please.
> >>
> >>What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998 to
> >>
> >>
> >them
> >
> >
> >>then sold the mass to you.
> >>
> >>Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better.
> >>
> >>I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum London,
> >>American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that
wont
> >>trade with me.....
> >>
> >>Answer please.
> >>Michael Farmer
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
> >>To: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> >>Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >>Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>>Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters,
remember
> >>>
> >>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>Monahans meteorite! Will you ever show your face in Texas again after
> >>>
> >>>
> >>what
> >>
> >>
> >>>you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and
lie.
> >>>How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the
> >>>scientist's name who busted you stealing? How about the museums di you
> >>>upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours. How
> >>>
> >>>
> >many
> >
> >
> >>>museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them?
> >>>
> >>>
> >Mike
> >
> >
> >>>you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because
> >>>
> >>>
> >a
> >
> >
> >>>real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to
> >>>survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer
because
> >>>
> >>>
> >>you
> >>
> >>
> >>>are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific
> >>>community. If you want to continue this string I will be happy to
> >>>
> >>>
> >report
> >
> >
> >>>more of your escapades.
> >>>
> >>>Tired of Mike's lies,
> >>>
> >>>Adam
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> >>>To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>;
> >>><meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >>>Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>YAWN, again, "UNNAMED SCIENTISTS", all talking the Hopes, neither one
> >>>>scientists.
> >>>>Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore.
> >>>>Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >Amgala
> >
> >
> >>>>posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>it
> >>
> >>
> >>>>from Adam if you want the "real thing" etc etc etc.
> >>>>Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your
> >>>>bullshit emails full of "unnamed sources".
> >>>>Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>mailing
> >>
> >>
> >>>>list.
> >>>>Michael Farmer
> >>>>By the way
> >>>>How is the "we aren't dealers" spiel still working out?
> >>>>and the adventure stories about a couple of guys who have been on 3
> >>>>meteorites hunts? You would think by reading the articles you have
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>generated
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>that you and Greg are Indiana Jones's but show your passports and you
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>have
> >>
> >>
> >>>>been to Africa what, 2 times? 3 maybe? Still, you are doing a good job
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>of
> >>
> >>
> >>>>hyping yourselves, I myself could'nt handle so much self
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >congratulating.
> >
> >
> >>>> On another note, I hope Greg is ok (really) I would never want
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>anyone
> >>
> >>
> >>>to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>go through a hurricane and it is centered almost over Greg Hupe right
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>now,
> >>
> >>
> >>>>among many other list memebers (David Weir) I hope you are well too.
> >>>>
> >>>> Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
> >>>>To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:19 AM
> >>>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Ramblings
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Dear List,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Most List members joined in order to read about meteorites not
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>politics
> >>
> >>
> >>>or
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>arguments. Some prominent people read it every morning like a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>newspaper.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Others wait until they come home from a hard day's work and read it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>for
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>relaxation. I was shocked when we heard in Houston that several
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>scientists
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>read the archives on a regular basis, mostly for entertainment and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>have
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>already come to conclusions about certain List members. They
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >likened
> >
> >
> >>it
> >>
> >>
> >>>>to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>a soap opera with its very own drama queen based in Tucson. For
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>others
> >>
> >>
> >>>it
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>reinforced opinions already held. Journalist read the archives and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>use
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>information in their articles. In some cases they have gone back
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>several
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>years and ask us what we thought about this or that. Eventually
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >some
> >
> >
> >>>of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>this material comes out in print so consider this every time you
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >make
> >
> >
> >>a
> >>
> >>
> >>>>post
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>to the List. Every word is archived for the entire world to see.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>All the best,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>------------------------------------
> >>>>>Adam Hupe
> >>>>>The Hupe Collection
> >>>>>Team LunarRock
> >>>>>IMCA 2185
> >>>>>raremeteorites_at_comcast.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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