[meteorite-list] Introducing NWA 3133, A Fantastic New Meteorite

From: j.divelbiss_at_att.net <j.divelbiss_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Oct 14 20:27:49 2004
Message-ID: <101520040027.2022.416F1980000D66A1000007E621603759649C9C070D040A90070BD206_at_att.net>

Here is the information about NWA 1839 on Nelson's site.

http://www.meteorites-r-us.com/subcategory.cfm?subcat_id=773

The questions still remains, I wonder how the NWA 3133 data compares to it?

I wonder what the O-isotope readings would be NWA 1839?

John





-------------- Original message from j.divelbiss_at_att.net: --------------

> Hello all,
>
> Adam wrote:
>
> "NWA 3133 was first thought to be either a brachinite or a recrystallized
> chondrite prompting the two laboratories, Northern Arizona University and
> the University of Washington, to seek oxygen isotope testing, a way to
> determine its final classification."
>
> Stan wrote about a possible pairing to NWA 1839.
>
> After all this I was curious enough to take a look at NWA 1839...both a small
> slice I have of it, and the slices available on the net at
> http://www.polandmet.com/_nwa1839.htm
>
> I know the first rule of comparing meteorites...that is, not to compare by looks
> alone...but it sure looks to me like NWA 1839 has the appearance of the auction
> pieces of NWA 3133.
>
> NWA 1839 was classified by NAU as a L7 recrystalized chondrite ...and at first
> glance it looks like a dark achondrite(ie.brachinite). I'll be curious to see
> how this turns out, and if indeed they are the same.
>
> Question...since we know the mineral composition percentages of NWA 1839, would
> it be asking too much to publish the same findings for NWA 3133...for
> comparison, or will only the oxygen isotope values really be the litmus test for
> pairing these two, and/or other stones that come along. Does NAU have an opinion
> yet? Are they looking into it(NWA 1839) again? Were isotopes previously measured
> for NWA 1839 ?
>
> Since I/we have pieces of NWA 1839 out there...I/we would really like to know.
>
> As usual...curious,
>
> John
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message from "Adam Hupe" : --------------
>
> > Hi Stan and List,
> >
> > This is not a basaltic achondrite and plots clear out in the CV range not
> > the CR range like NWA 011. It is nothing like NWA 011 as you announced your
> > specimen closely matched the other night. This shows the importance of
> > having scientific documentation to back up every piece you offer. Oxygen
> > isotopes have been plotted for every specimen of NWA 3133 we plan on selling
> > so you can be absolutely sure we are offering the real McCoy.
> >
> > This is nothing like what you announced the other night. NWA 1839 you
> > mention is listed as an L7 and weighs 127 grams so I do not have any idea
> > what you are talking about. Is your piece paired to an L7, NWA 011 or our
> > Piece? How can one specimen change identities three times. My suggestion
> > is to have your specimen analyzed by proper laboratories, get an NWA number
> > and have the NomCom approve it. This is why proper channels are so
> > important. If your piece is paired with NWA 011 I would still be interested
> > in acquiring a sizable specimen.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Adam Hupe
> > The Hupe Collection
> > Team LunarRock
> > IMCA 2185
> > raremeteorites_at_comcast.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "stan ."
> > To: ;
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 6:27 PM
> > Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Introducing NWA 3133, A Fantastic New
> > Meteorite
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >"Am I jaded or what? I'm ignoring two new pieces of Mars and getting so
> > > >worked up over pieces of a probably long-destroyed planetary body that
> > may
> > > >never be found in space. But I can guarantee the deepest interest in an
> > > >isotope map of its extreme range of heterogeneity and, maybe a new
> > advance
> > > >in understanding the inner workings of small planets!"
> > >
> > >
> > > Adam,
> > >
> > > This is the same stuff that I had offered the list this weekend - i dont
> > > know why i was told it ploted on the CR line instead of CV - maybe it's
> > just
> > > my damn bad memory as i was informed on the telephone... mine is
> > > reclassified nwa1839 - so we WERE tlaking about the same stuff.
> > >
> > > Guess i'm not going to have anything to trade that slice of pena blanca
> > > springs out of you - unless maybe you would be interested in a slice of
> > > polymict ureilite about as big as a dollar bill - just out of curiosity -
> > > how much would you want for it on a straight cash deal?
> > >
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