[meteorite-list] My Eyes Are Glazing Over- Need "Scorecard"

From: MexicoDoug_at_aol.com <MexicoDoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon Nov 22 13:48:03 2004
Message-ID: <66960486.32B62E2F.0BFED528_at_aol.com>

My MXP dos centavos(thats US $0.001 to $0.002)

John & Dawn Birdsell kindly wrote:

"click on the email of interest it says "Not found" just click on "cashed" and you be able to read.."

Hola John, Sorry I couldn't resist laughing at your French. Was it a Freudian keyboard slip? Of course I can't spell myself let along delve into "psyche" of this list:) Please keep up the good posts. You got a couple of points on this issue preventing that I'm "blinded by science." Not that I agree of chorse:)

I wish the dealers would stop slugging it out and make up. If only some (read, Bob) would concede Adam is right on a few points, but just pisses you off, and whoever suggested he is a marketing commercial genius in this case, I think that couldn't be further from the truth. That title goes to the Big Canadian who has demonstrated knows better and can make a go out of it honestly no matter what happens to names. Adam seems to worry a lot to much about the science to qualify - ask Dean - or better yet read his posts.

For Jeff Grossman, you dealers should really stop editing and pasting his ever dotted "i" and crossed "t" whenever it is convenient - that masquerade hurts in my opinion (Both sides, I mean...Ouch!!!). He has only rambled a bit no doubt overwhelmed that some rock collectors have now the conservative and liberal editions of his gospel, and soon the ISKCON brand will come out.

But Jeff has actually kindly given one recommendation that I can see so far which on this list looks like it has the silent treatment. I wish this suggestion would be done. That is, that everyone classifying meteorites just give the fragment numbers like {NWA 6000, 1, 5} or something like is used by them dang Houston scientists supposedly doing something productive with these rocks. Anyone not able to do that at least going forward will do and say what they want and we here at least all know who you are, whether you be a coyote or a savior for the meteorite hungry, poor and huddled main masses. That way and most importantly to science for any who really do care, the dealer has truly added scientific value while the rest of the specimens will disappear into the woodwork anyway as we going though the entire meteoritic evidence of the Cuartenary Period in a geologic blink of an eye.

And this thought of dealers shutting up and listening to scientists sounds good to me, the only problem everyone has a scientist in them, though some have had the benefit of more education than others, and some are just naturally gifted and would have only been dumbed down at Oxford anyways. So please don't assume that all that have opined are not scientists or that all are biased. These are my wishes, and the only biases I am getting are just hearing this over and over again.

The IMCA could be contacted to see how they are doing on a formal proposal I submitted to them some time ago. It covered all this, exactly, just as the list has about 10 times over now. I wonder how may other listmembers like me are being forced to switch over to digest form as we have converted the list into a chat room. Art's statistics must be exponentially increasing in number of posts in the last few months.

And then there is Steve, thanks, Steve, I don't know where you pulled some of these "new Steve" posts you've been making lately, but the shoe is definitely on the other foot now. Careful, I don't think you have earned earned guru status you claimed yet:), but I am sure the list will let you know when you do...

This idea of applying coin grading to meteorites is hogwash in my opinion. Meteorites were not all stamped from the same mold or process, on the contrary the differences make them special, at least to me. "Oh there is slight wear on the fasces of the back side of the Mercury specimen are half worn..." Get real, we already have the Wlotzka grading scale for weathering to take care of this (though it seems it is used sometimes for material it was not intended to grade)...and we don't even have an image database of photos, so put the "Photograde" on the wish list with manned Mars missions. I wish dealers (YOU - if you selleven one meteorite, not the other guy, is what I mean by dealers throughout this, not the "Classical" definition promolgated by some), would just tell us what they are doing instead of being so secretive here. This isn't rocket science, just rock science, I believe, and maybe someone nice who would like to be appreciated by many of us could add to their website a page or two on how to cut
 (and etch) meteorites properly.

Look at all for just US cents 0.175. just imagine 2 cents worth!!! If you think I'm biased, fine, I don't, though...

Saludos, Doug


En un mensaje con fecha 11/22/2004 10:43:12 AM Mexico Standard Time, birdsell_at_email.arizona.edu escribe:

Hi Paul....There is an easily usable seach engine for the lists archives
located at the bottom of the Meteorite-List archives.
(http://www.meteoritecentral.com/archives.shtml) If, when you click on
the email of interest it says "Not found" just click on "cashed" and you
be able to read even the old email posts to the list.

Cheers


-John & Dawn
Arizona Skies Meteorites

Paul H wrote:

>....It is hard to search back through
>the innumerable posts, given the lack of a search
>engine specifically for the archives, to find out the
>details behind each specific number is being talked
>about...
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>
>
>Yours,
>
>Paul
>Baton Rouge, LA

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