[meteorite-list] Take look at what the BCC Lunar.

From: Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat Nov 20 18:44:25 2004
Message-ID: <BDC51765.1387E%mlblood_at_cox.net>

S. RAY,
        Please set your computer clock/date to proper time so
your posts do not pop up on TOP of all of everyone's email.
        Thanks, Michael

on 11/21/04 7:05 AM, S. Ray DeRusse at srd_at_ispwest.com wrote:

> Greetings List;
>
> Matteo wrote an eamil to Steve Shoner asking him what is this? And Steve
> Shoner asnswered in part.
>
> What is this ????
>
> As far as I remember I made no agreement with Ray
> DeRusse other than to trade a sample of Takysie Lake
> for some of his so called "stellar grains." I have
> made no conclusion on these samples, nor at this time
> do I intend to do any work with these as to ascertain
> what they are.
>
> This is not exactly correct. (I will find his emails ).I did make two
> trades with Steve, however I never asked him to test or determine what
> the stellar grains were in the slide, never. That has been determined
> and I sent them to him as a novelty and a trade. He sent me two samples
> of Takysie Lake and we determined that indeed one sample was consistent
> with the information in the MAPS article and the other was chemcially an
> augite rich lunar microbreccia. He sent me a long long email basically
> in distress saying he and Ninninger were convinced it was lunar but that
> the "scientists" in Arizona would not look at it again. Somewhere I have
> copies of these emails. But let it be known that we never asked him to
> identify anything for us. Why would ask him to do something for us that
> we can do ourselves? That makes no sense. Now having said this about
> this trade with Shoner, if any of you think that Mr. Shoner did not grab
> that slide and run to the lab to look through a microscope and examine
> the stellar grains, you are out in lala land. If you think scientists in
> Arizona have not looked at our material, you are out in lala land. No
> reasonable person and certainly no prosecutor is going to believe that
> our sample to Steve Shoner has been sitting idle somewhere.
>
> As far as Badolotti recieving a lunar sample for free he's not the only
> one that has a sample. Matteo keeps harassing Badalotti and us and
> everybody. If Matteo wants a sample he can ask Francesco Badolotti and
> if Badalotti wanst to give him some that is OK with us. We sent a sample
> to Badalotti because of his devotion to the lunar science and the Moon,
> he deserves it.
>
> Now to Dr. Tanuki or whatever you call yourself. You write;
>
> What is this person`s point? If he has scientific data? on his
> "lunar"and "other" material, why does`t he present it and be quiet
> instead of attacking scientists and their real research? To attack Dr.
> Rubin, the fine scientists in Texas, Mike Farmer, Matteo and Steve
> Schoner is counter-productive and completely uncalled for.
>
> I don't know where you have been, but we have never launched an attack
> against anyone first. Some of the idiots on the list and there are many,
> have launched unwarranted attacks on us first. We responded with an
> equal measure of force. You're very right it is counter productive to
> attack scientists, if it is warranted.
> If I have made claims against any scientist it is sustainable by a
> direct or indirect body of evidence and it is not a big secret that if
> you engaged in scientific misconduct fraud and abuse against us we're
> coming after you until we receive satisfaction. Because we are not going
> to allow abuses against us under some sort of cloak of authority, by a
> "scientist". If I were them, I would come clean long long ago because
> now the Federal Government has a bigger clean up job to do and believe
> me they working on it and we are woking with them.
>
> Finally to Matteo, an honorable mention, you need to get real about
> asking NASA, JPL, JSC or Alan Rubin, any scientist, or whoever to shut
> us down. Aside from server problems we are having, we're not going
> anywhere. The reason for this is that its too late for them. Based on
> the stack of documents I just sent out by a federal request. We are
> under the cloak of authority and protection by certain governmental
> agencies. The people you keep asking to help you would be better off
> finding a small dark, quiet corner, to pray.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> S. Ray DeRusse,
>
> www.bccmeteorites.com
>
>
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