[meteorite-list] AW: [ I.M.C.A. ] Re: [Fwd: S. Ray DeRusse...]

From: McomeMeteorite Meteorite <meteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat Nov 20 08:24:03 2004
Message-ID: <BAY2-F1090B9E2BC500C6E89400C0C40_at_phx.gbl>

I have some friends lawyers, I see what say.... but DeRusse have to go out
from this world with this fakes

>From: "Bernhard Rems" <rendelius_at_rpgdot.com>
>To: "'M come Meteorite Meteorites'" <mcomemeteorite2004_at_yahoo.it>
>CC: Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] AW: [ I.M.C.A. ] Re: [Fwd: S. Ray DeRusse...]
>Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:20:35 +0100
>
>Matteo,
>
>it's not that JPL could "eliminate this person forever" or close his
>site.
>
>I suggest you hire a lawyer and do it yourself, but I think that the
>chances are not the best, actually. You could spend a lot of money with
>little outcome.
>
>Bernhard
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: M come Meteorite Meteorites [mailto:mcomemeteorite2004_at_yahoo.it]
>Gesendet: Samstag, 20. November 2004 07:55
>An: Pekka Savolainen; Steve Schoner
>Cc: ken_at_imca.cc; meteoritecollectorsassociation@yahoogroups.com
>Betreff: Re: [ I.M.C.A. ] Re: [Fwd: S. Ray DeRusse...]
>
>
>Its the time to eliminated this person forever, write all to JPL for ask
>to close the site of this idiot. I have write yesterday, and I have been
>inform my lawyer and well I can denounce this idiot for libel.
>
>Matteo
>
>Pekka Savolainen <pekka.savolainen_at_dlc.fi> wrote:
>
>Thank you, Steve,
>
>that was what I thought, just wanted to let you know,
>he seems to use your name on his site. This is not
>very nice, excpecially at the moment, your health is
>the best it could be.
>
>Perhaps Ken could ask Mr. DaRusse to remove this
>nonsense from his site? The same person also uses
>DMS (Dutch Meteor Society) material on his sites,
>and I have informed Marco Langbroek about this.
>
>Don?t have words to say, what I?m thinking about
>the way, Mr. DaRusse uses the names / material of
>the people without permission or even the people
>don?t know, their name / material is used, sad and
>discusting.
>
>Steve, try to manage with your health, life is sometimes,
>what it is, but anyway.
>
>best regards and have a nice weekend,
>
>pekka s
>
>
>
>Steve Schoner wrote:
>
> >Ken, Pekka, et al,
> >
> >???
> >
> >What is this ????
> >
> >As far as I remember I made no agreement with Ray
> >DeRusse other than to trade a sample of Takysie Lake
> >for some of his so called "stellar grains." I have
> >made no conclusion on these samples, nor at this time
> >do I intend to do any work with these as to ascertain
> >what they are.
> >
> >No agreement, financial, scientific or otherwise was
> >implied in the transaction which was in 2002 before I
> >became disabled in Jan. 2003. As I remember it was a
> >simple trade for a questionable meteorite (stellar
> >grains) for a questionable meteorite (Takysie Lake)--
> >the question of both which is still in question.
> >
> >Furthermore I am "silent" regarding this not to
> >"protect the scientists." I don't know where that idea
> >comes from, and it is certainly not mine, I might add.
> >
> >My "silence" is due to the fact that I am dealing with
> >major health issues. I have very little time now to
> >deal with meteorites, the MetList or any meteorite
> >endeavors, so, that said, I am not even going to get
> >involved in this dispute. Since my near fatal brain
> >illness, I am simply too ill to deal with such.
> >
> >Steve Schoner.
> >
> >
> >
> >--- "ken_at_imca.cc" <ken@imca.cc> wrote:
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >
> >
> >-------- Original Message -------- Subject:
> > S. Ray DeRusse... Date: Sat,
> >20 Nov 2004 00:29:41 +0200 From:
> >Pekka Savolainen <pekka.savolainen_at_dlc.fi>
> > To:
> >meteoritecollectorsassociation_at_yahoogroups.com,
> >steve_at_imca.cc
> >
> >
> >Well, I?d be glad to have your comment for this,
> >Steve...;-"The person above (pekka s) is implying
> >that we used the above writings in italics (box) to
> >fabricate having received a Takysie Lake sample from
> >Steve Shoner. Below is one of Mr. Shoner's envelopes.
> >We don't have to engage in fraud and wishful thinking
> >Mr. Pekka. The scientists and law enforcement that
> >need to know who is engaging in what activity already
> >know. Therefore, Mr. Shoner need not divulge any
> >information to the meteorite list group member above
> >"pekka s". He could set you straight if he wanted to
> >but he is not sharing any information openly with the
> >meteorite list because by keeping you in the dark Mr.
> >Shoner helps protect the scientists. He is not at
> >liberty to discuss with you what he has sent to us and
> >not sent and what the results are. He is not allowed
> >to convey anything meaningful because it is too
> >damaging for all of you and the scientific
> >community."http://www.bccmeteorites.com/matteo2.htmlbest,pekka
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