[meteorite-list] ET re Another fake name, serious business

From: Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Nov 16 18:35:47 2004
Message-ID: <BDBFCF5D.1351B%mlblood_at_cox.net>

Hi Mike,
        The issue I made is NOT who is right or wrong.
        If you were to post a very similar announcement,
saying you had addressed this issue with ET and was told to take a
long walk off a short pier and he didn't care what you thought
about what he was doing and you think collectors should be
aware this is going on - THAT WOULD BE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT
situation.
        Instead, you FIRST publicly chastise him. Whatever
is going on - that is a poor start at ANY attempt for remedy,
regardless of the circumstances involved. You don't know
what is take on the situation is - you haven't even addressed
the issue with him. MAYBE there is a good explanation - MAYBE
there isn't. MAYBE he looked at it one way and will change his
perspective once he hears what you have to say - MAYBE he
won't.... we don't know, because YOU HAVEN'T TALKED TO HIM
ABOUT IT.
        There are a good many of us who will be far more
interested in ANY issue you have with any other dealer IF you
report civil attempts to resolve the issue on your part met
with a lack of cooperation on their part.
        THEN I start wondering what is going on. Then I start
listening to the content. However, when it is a one way mud
throwing event, all I see is mud throwing - the content is
unimportant to me if the process isn't clean.
        Other than that, thanks for a relatively civil response on
your part.
        Sincerely, Michael
 



  

on 11/16/04 3:10 PM, Michael Farmer at meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net wrote:

> Michael, you seem to leave out the obvious, he is using numbers for
> meteorites sitting in my safe, I paid to have classified and worked.
> Michael, can you explain that, or does it not matter since he is your
> friend.
> This is very simple Michael, no genius needed here.
> I will make it simple though
> Guy A owns an item.
> Guy B starts selling the same item which is not possible since it is sitting
> guy A's safe.
> Who is the liar here? Guy A who paid to have the stone classified or Guy B
> who did not?
> So calm down Blood, and look at things rationally.
> Michael Farmer
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael L Blood" <mlblood_at_cox.net>
> To: "Mike Farmer & Melody" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>; "Meteorite List"
> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ET re Another fake name, serious business
>
>
>> Yes,
>> I, indeed, do have an opinion:
>> It is one thing to lamblast Matteo, who has dealt dirty with
>> numerous members of this list or even to sling mud back & forth
>> between yourself and Adam - it is quite another to go off on
>> a person of E.T.'s dignity, venerable tenure and hard earned
>> reputation for honesty!
>> Anyone on this list who has dealt with ET will tell you he
>> bends over backwards for even the most obnoxious customer
>> (I have SEEN him do this, myself), NEVER rips people off and
>> has been dealing meteorites as long as anyone (and I mean
>> ANYONE) in the business.
>> You even ADMIT you have not spoken to him about this,
>> so WHAT IN THE HELL are you doing posting it to the list!?
>> Get a grip.
>> If you somehow lack contact information, contact me and I
>> will be happy to supply you with his phone number and email
>> address.
>> If you can't manage to act like a gentleman, at least pretend
>> to have a modicum of decency and good business sense!
>> Sincerely, Michael Blood
>>
>>
>> on 11/16/04 1:14 PM, Michael Farmer at meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone out there got any opinions on this?
>>> Here is another example of false name given to unclassified meteorite.
>>> http://www.polandmet.com/_nwa1906.htm
>>> This is POLANDMET, who has a page selling NWA 1906, a Rumuruti.
>>>
>>> Now, here is my page, of NWA 1906, the only stone classified and given
>>> this
>>> number:
>>> http://www.meteoriteguy.com/nwa1906.htm
>>>
>>> The problem, that is my meteorite, one stone, no pairings ever announced.
>>> Take a look at the two pages, the meteorites are not even similar in any
>>> way.
>>> Mine is NWA 1906, since I had it classified, Polandmet's does not even
>>> come
>>> close to mine. It doesn't look the same, it has much larger chondrules,
>>> multicolored, and is just totally different. Not to mention that there
>>> are
>>> clearly two different meteorites on that same page. Note the slices at
>>> top,
>>> very nice clear multicolored chondrules, then the slices are the bottom,
>>> smaller chondrules, more weathered, clearly brecciated.
>>> These meteorites are totally different.
>>>
>>> I am publicly demanding from Polandmet to answer this.
>>> What makes you think that you can sell a meteorite under the number that
>>> my
>>> stone received? What makes you think they are paired? Why are you doing
>>> this?
>>>
>>> Edwin Thompson is the one who is using a whole host of my numbers, I have
>>> not spoken with him yet, but there is no justification for it other than
>>> trying to pawn off unclassified meteorites as names pieces.
>>>
>>> This has the potential to collapse the entire meteorite market.
>>> We are only as good as our name, and I have worked very hard to do things
>>> right. I would NEVER sell someone a meteorite that is not what it is
>>> claimed
>>> to be.
>>> But this is what these dealers are doing, making visual pairings to keep
>>> from having to do their own work.
>>> Buyer beware, it seems that the only way to get official material is to
>>> buy
>>> from the dealer who made the official classification.
>>> Michael Farmer
>>> Awaiting a response from Polandmet and Edwin Thompson.
>>>
>>> http://www.meteoriteguy.com/nwa1906.htm
>>>
>>>
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