[meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairing List

From: tett <tett_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat Nov 13 07:36:07 2004
Message-ID: <014101c4c97d$59625cd0$6400a8c0_at_Tettenborn>

Roman and List,

I have had some surprising results using acid to clean meteorites. I have a
piece of Zag that I cleaned about 4 years ago and it looks like it fell
yesterday. Fresh as can be with no stains. I think many newbie collectors
would be fooled that this slice is from a fresh fall. Bernd would probably
know the truth from a mile off though.

I have also cleaned Juancheng, Selma and many NWA's with great results.
Some others, however, just don't want to clean up. Perhaps as the stain
ages it becomes more engrained in the stones?

Of course I don't clean all my meteorites because I am not 100% sure of long
term affects. Will it crumble in 10 years? etc.. I also think there is
some merit to have "unaltered" specimens.

Cheers,

tett
Owen Sound, Ontario

P.S. Roman. No can do in November. December?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Roman Jirasek" <rom_at_look.ca>
To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairing List


>> Amgala*
>> Cleaned Zag being substituted, only one well known dealer still at fault.
>
> Hi Adam, are you at liberty to let us know who this dealer is?
> I think the collecting community needs to know. I would hate
> to see a collector buy a Zag thinking it was a fresh new fall.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Roman Jirasek
> www.meteoritelabels.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:45 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairing List
>
>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> While studying the problems associated with number borrowing I came up
> with
>> a list of the most abused names. I see there have been some improvements
>> lately in this area such as web sites have been changed, some are using
> the
>> term suspected pairing and others are submitting suspected pairings to
>> laboratories. This is good news and will help improve collector
> confidence.
>> If every dealer did his/her best to follow the rules set forth by the
>> NomCom, meteorite collecting could evolve to the next plateau. Here are
>> a
>> few examples that could stand some improvement:
>>
>>
>> Amgala*
>> Cleaned Zag being substituted, only one well known dealer still at fault.
>>
>> NWA 1109*
>> Still being sold as a Howardite - Name borrowed heavily - Self proclaimed
>> pairings
>>
>> NWA 1068
>> Self proclaimed pairings
>>
>> NWA 1110*
>> Mass self proclaimed pairings
>>
>> NWA 1877*
>> Self proclaimed pairings
>>
>> NWA 1817*
>> Self proclaimed pairings
>>
>> NWA 1827
>> Self proclaimed pairings
>>
>> NWA 1878*
>> Self proclaimed pairings
>>
>> NWA 1929
>> Mass self proclaimed pairings
>>
>> NWA 3118*
>> Mass self proclaimed pairings
>>
>> NWA 3140*
>> Mass self proclaimed pairings
>>
>> * Studies paid for by The Hupe Collection
>>
>> As you can see by the number of asterisks we have a large investment in
> the
>> above listed meteorites. This is why we take exception to anybody using
>> these numbers that has not made their material official. We spend
> thousands
>> every month on the study of NWA material and do not depend on grant
>> money.
>> This money comes directly out of our pockets. I hope a month from now
> this
>> list is shorter. I will become more specific if needed in the future.
> Now
>> lets have some fun doing the right thing.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>> Adam Hupe
>> The Hupe Collection
>> Team LunarRock
>> IMCA 2185
>> raremeteorites_at_comcast.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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