AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices

From: McomeMeteorite Meteorite <meteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Nov 5 16:00:10 2004
Message-ID: <BAY2-F34LAPDVXLuSbh000018ef_at_hotmail.com>

its the same Farmer...its the same.....ah I have waith you after Munich here
but I not have see you....the terror of
meteoritehunters....oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Matteo


>From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>To: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite"
><meteorites_at_hotmail.com>,<rendelius@rpgdot.com>,<Altmann@Meteorite-Martin.de>
>CC: <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 08:54:48 -0700
>
>I never sell for 99 cents, I often put on for 1 cent though.
>I like to make my customers happy, it seems you are advocating raping them
>with too high prices.
>Do you still have people dumb enough to buy from you?
>----- Original Message ----- From: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite"
><meteorites_at_hotmail.com>
>To: <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>; <rendelius@rpgdot.com>;
><Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
>Cc: <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 8:48 AM
>Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>
>
>>Have speack the person in first put a meteorite for $75 one ebay and if no
>>go sold put the same for $0.99$ Start bid....nice take in turn for the
>>buyers
>>
>>Matteo
>>
>>
>>>From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>>>To: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite"
>>><meteorites_at_hotmail.com>,<rendelius@rpgdot.com>,<Altmann@Meteorite-Martin.de>
>>>CC: <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>>>Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 08:14:39 -0700
>>>
>>>I thought you were the one always whining about high prices?
>>>Now you whine that they are too low.
>>>Matteo, I suggest medicine and a psychiatrist..
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite"
>>><meteorites_at_hotmail.com>
>>>To: <rendelius_at_rpgdot.com>; <Altmann@Meteorite-Martin.de>
>>>Cc: <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:39 PM
>>>Subject: RE: AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>>>
>>>
>>>>oh yes....It experiences to sell a lunar meteorite for $5000/gr. now.
>>>>.... minimum laugh you behind seen that someone quite thought to put
>>>>them to $200 - 500/gr. on ebay and now the luanrs are known with that
>>>>price now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "Bernhard Rems" <rendelius_at_rpgdot.com>
>>>>>To: "'Martin Altmann'" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
>>>>>CC: Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>>>>>Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:42:24 +0100
>>>>>
>>>>>Martin, I will always repeat my point: :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Most people DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SELL. To sell something on ebay is an
>>>>>art. If someone sells a rumuruti with one sentence, bad layout and an
>>>>>ugly photo - well, what would you expect?
>>>>>
>>>>>This lack of understanding for the basic principles of selling are as
>>>>>much responsible for the cheap prices as ebay or the large amount of
>>>>>material.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bernhard
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>Von: meteorite-list-bounces_at_meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces_at_meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
>>>>>Martin Altmann
>>>>>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 04. November 2004 18:33
>>>>>An: J?rn Koblitz; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>>>>>
>>>>>Objection:
>>>>>a) Howardite sold after Denver in US-ebay at 6.5$/g
>>>>>b) Lunaite sold in summer on US-ebay in small slices at 200$/g and 500$
>>>>>for
>>>>>mare basalt.
>>>>>c) Cumulate eucrite in US-ebay at 1.5-2$/g
>>>>>d) Ureilite frequently offered at 25$/g there
>>>>>e) Rumurutis in german ebay (ignorance, hihi) 1.7$/g
>>>>>not to mention the prices one may get on the shows from the Moroccain
>>>>>dealers.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've not the impression, that the rare types are still high priced at
>>>>>the
>>>>>moment.
>>>>>
>>>>>f) Finally for most Moroccains meteorites are simple goods like
>>>>>minerals
>>>>>and
>>>>>fossils.
>>>>>They want to sell them, they make their livings from their sales.
>>>>>Thus why should they keep them in the back rooms?
>>>>>Did they kept the trilobites there, when those crashed in price? (two
>>>>>fossil
>>>>>collectors told me, that the prices for them years ago were much
>>>>>higher).
>>>>>If they would have planned and calculated as supposed, they never would
>>>>>have
>>>>>released so large amounts of rare material before.
>>>>>
>>>>>My impressions.
>>>>>Martin
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "J?rn Koblitz" <koblitz_at_microfab.de>
>>>>>To: "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com>; "Michael Farmer"
>>>>><meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>>>>>Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:16 PM
>>>>>Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] meteorite prices
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Certainly, there are many more ordinary chondrites (OCs) from the hot
>>>>>desert
>>>>>and rare types like achondrite probably make up just one or two percent
>>>>>of
>>>>>it...
>>>>>
>>>>>...but, considering the fairly high prices for the rare types and the
>>>>>limited spending capacity of this market segment (collectors as well as
>>>>>museums/research institutes), my impression is, that OCs are easily
>>>>>sold
>>>>>in
>>>>>"tons" at price levels of 50 to 100$/kg, wereas the rare stuff is being
>>>>>sold
>>>>>on a gram or even milligram scale.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wouldn't it take a very long time, to get all the howardites, polymict
>>>>>eucrites, rumurutiites, martian meteorites (considering alone the TKWs
>>>>>of
>>>>>DaG 476 or SaU 005 and pairings) hiding in the back rooms of Moroccan
>>>>>and
>>>>>non-Moroccan dealers?
>>>>>
>>>>>I assume, that the prices for OCs - especially those with nice shapes
>>>>>or
>>>>>fairly unweathered interior - will rise soon, whereas most of the rare
>>>>>types
>>>>>will stay at high level or will even decline.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any objections?
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>J?rn
>>>>>
>>>>> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> > Von: Greg Hupe [mailto:gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com]
>>>>> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. November 2004 18:44
>>>>> > An: Michael Farmer
>>>>> > Cc: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>>>>> > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction meteorites
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi Mike,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I concur! The gold rush is already showing signs of ending.
>>>>> > The Moroccans
>>>>> > are pulling out their "good" material and acting in a
>>>>> > feverish, money lust,
>>>>> > frenzy to get the last buck from those who deal there.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Greg
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
>>>>> > To: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>; "MARK BOSTICK"
>>>>> > <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 10:27 AM
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction meteorites
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > On two expeditions in Oman, we found over 100 meteorites
>>>>> > before finding my
>>>>> > > first achondrite, a rare type of Ureilite.
>>>>> > > Achondrites are rare, the flood from Morocco will soon end.
>>>>> > > Mike Farmer
>>>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > > From: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
>>>>> > > To: "MARK BOSTICK" <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>;
>>>>> > > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>> > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:19 AM
>>>>> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction meteorites
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> Hiho Mark,
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> the region does not make the difference, the finders do!
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> In Antarctica it's the common process, to number each
>>>>> > stone seperately -
>>>>> > >> take a look at the Bulletins, there you'll find rare
>>>>> > types, found in the
>>>>> > >> same place on the same day with different numbers.
>>>>> > >> Sahara in general is different, in Oman never were so much
>>>>> > hunters around
>>>>> > >> as
>>>>> > >> in Libya and the Oman stuff does not end up in Morocco.
>>>>> > >> And the teams in Oman give always all their finds from one
>>>>> > aerea as a
>>>>> > >> bunch
>>>>> > >> in classification, most in the same place. So different
>>>>> > conditions as
>>>>> > >> with
>>>>> > >> the NWA-stuff.
>>>>> > >> Meanwhile a beginning collector must have the impression, that a
>>>>> > >> howardite,
>>>>> > >> a mesosiderite, a CV3 or a olivine diogenite must be
>>>>> > something extremely
>>>>> > >> common, as always when a new one is coming out, in the
>>>>> > months to follow,
>>>>> > >> appears a dozen numbers of the same material.
>>>>> > >> But ask f.e. Afanasjev or Haberer how many ordinary
>>>>> > chondrites you have
>>>>> > >> to
>>>>> > >> hunt down, until you'll find an achondrite! Make some
>>>>> > stats NWA versus
>>>>> > >> Dho,
>>>>> > >> with the latter I suppose you will get different ratios of
>>>>> > rare types to
>>>>> > >> common ones, if you count the numbers as own finds.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> And of course many of the OCs from Oman are similar
>>>>> > looking as in most
>>>>> > >> cases, they ae very weathered, W3-4. But take a look in
>>>>> > the lists from
>>>>> > >> the
>>>>> > >> Bulletins, where you can see from the date of find and the
>>>>> > coordinates,
>>>>> > >> that
>>>>> > >> mostly a large series of subsequent numbers were found on
>>>>> > the same trip,
>>>>> > >> there you have a wide variety of Ls and Hs with different
>>>>> > Fa and Fs
>>>>> > >> values
>>>>> > >> and weathering degrees.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> So I think, if it costs the same, Stevey is not wrong to
>>>>> > prefer Dho
>>>>> > >> instead
>>>>> > >> of NWA, as in my eyes, they have a higher collector's
>>>>> > value (and I'm
>>>>> > >> really
>>>>> > >> no fan of desert chondrites, I'm sooo conservative and
>>>>> > collect names).
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Cheeers!
>>>>> > >> Martin
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > >> From: "MARK BOSTICK" <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>
>>>>> > >> To: <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>;
>>>>> > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>> > >> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:38 PM
>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auction meteorites
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> Hello Martin,
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> I do not keep a list of paired meteorites or possible
>>>>> > paired meteorites.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Dhofar is no different then DaG or other like regions. I
>>>>> > have traded
>>>>> > >>> more
>>>>> > >>> in DaG so I could tell you some pairs in it. I have seen
>>>>> > a few tables
>>>>> > >>> of
>>>>> > >>> Dhofar's where you have several H5 or L6's that look a lot
>>>>>alike.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> There have been pairing studies done in DaG, Roosvelt County and
>>>>> > >>> Anartica.
>>>>> > >>> In all of these high collection places pairings were
>>>>> > found to be pretty
>>>>> > >>> common. Which I do not see as any problem and that was
>>>>> > not a negative
>>>>> > >>> Dhofar comment. Anyone thinking it was negative is free
>>>>> > to send me all
>>>>> > >>> their Roosevelt County meteorites. Should a pairing
>>>>> > study be made, I
>>>>> > >> think
>>>>> > >>> the numbers say you will find Dhofar no different then
>>>>> > other areas of
>>>>> > >>> meteorite concentration.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> The naming rules in all these areas say pretty much,
>>>>> > unless it fits
>>>>> > >>> together, it gets a different name...or number as it is.
>>>>> > We seem to
>>>>> > >>> have
>>>>> > >>> changed this a little to, found within a few feet, as
>>>>> > many of the DaG's
>>>>> > >> with
>>>>> > >>> the same number do not fit together.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> On my website you will find I have many Dhofar, DaG and other >
>>>>> >>> like
>>>>> > >> numbered
>>>>> > >>> meteorites. However, if you check the gallery, you will see in
>>>>> > >>> my
>>>>> > >> personal
>>>>> > >>> collection, I avoid like classification meteorites from
>>>>> > regions of high
>>>>> > >>> meteorite concentration.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> http://www.meteoritearticles.com/photogallerymeteorites.html
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Mark Bostick
>>>>> > >>> www.meteoritearticles.com
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
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