[meteorite-list] Special Martian Meteorite Auction on 5-12

From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun May 2 22:45:30 2004
Message-ID: <017601c430b7$167a9fe0$ad971018_at_attbi.com>

Hello Again Martin and List,

We used auction prices only in our database as dealers are almost always
willing to negotiate the price listed on their web-sites.

All the best,

Adam


----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Special Martian Meteorite Auction on 5-12


> Hi,
> I have problems with the mail too,
> third try to come through.
>
> Hi again les Hupes and list,
>
> so it's perhaps a missunderstanding.
> I thought with your add, you were addressing to the normal collectors as
> most of us are.
> So I took as the "market value" those prices, which were visible at that
> time on the homepages of the dealers and from their sales catalogues, thus
> the prices, for which they offered the material to the buyers, vulgo the
> retail price.
> I have the collector's view, who has to pay the resulting prices and not
> those which dealers make for dealers or which are offered on fairs in
> personal communication or in Morrocco.
> Perhaps there were not the right dealers among the more than 70 compared,
> but to speak about collector's price, I'm not able to find an offer for
DaG
> 476 at 120$/g.
> Cheapest was Vassiliev with starting at 357$/gm
> Next les Labennes with 400$
> Dinostar (I mix it always up with Nature Source - who is Delgaudio?)
813$/g
> Al Mitterling 900$
> Surprise: Matteo 900$
> well and quite all others, which I don't want to name here, as many are on
> the list and they may take it for an affront, if I go on had prices >1000$
> (top price was 2900$/g)
>
> Zagami was slightly more expensive,
> average was 1424$/g.
> No offer for 140$/g reported.
>
> Cheers!
> Martin A.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 3:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Special Martian Meteorite Auction on 5-12
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> > To: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
> > Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Special Martian Meteorite Auction on 5-12
> >
> >
> > > Hi Martin and List,
> > >
> > > Martians bottomed out two and a half years ago according to our data
> base.
> > > Zagami could be purchased for $140.00 a gram then and DAG 476 for
> $120.00.
> > > Both sell for around $300.00 a gram now. It is understandable that
the
> > > SAU005 and DAG 476 series would be at the low end of the feeding chain
> > > because of the amount of supply. I feel Zagami (a witnessed fall
> selling
> > > for less than NWA Martians) is under priced right now because most of
it
> > has
> > > now been distributed and larger specimens are becoming increasingly
> > > difficult to find. Nakhla (another witnessed fall selling for less
than
> > NWA
> > > Nakhlites) is the least expensive Nakhlite right now but has held
steady
> > at
> > > around $1,200 a gram for several years making it a relatively safe
> > > investment. It looks like TKW is the factor that most influences the
> > price
> > > of Martian material. Surprisingly, it does not seem to matter that
some
> > are
> > > witnessed falls according to our database which tracks auction prices
> not
> > > dealers. Martians were one of the first type of meteorites to
> depreciate
> > > and are among the first to recover from the downturn of a couple years
> > back.
> > > They have outperformed everything the last two and half years
according
> to
> > > our collection database.
> > >
> > > Lunar on the other hand seems to be under appreciated right now. We
> feel
> > > that it was priced way too high four years ago and the price seems to
> have
> > > over corrected itself. We have improved our collection greatly taking
> > > advantage of these low prices as have several other collectors so you
> wont
> > > hear us complaining. At a fraction of the weight of Martians, Lunar
> > > represent the biggest bargain right now, in our opinion.
> > >
> > > I feel as a whole, the so-called market is still adjusting itself.
> > > Witnessed falls were among the last items to drop in price and still
> > > continue to decrease sharply according to our database that represents
> > most
> > > available falls contained in our collection. The low petrologic type
> > > chondrites and rare material having been holding steady lately
> indicating
> > > the demand is good and the price has been beaten down about as far is
it
> > is
> > > going to go. If the supply were to suddenly drop you can count on
rare
> > > material to be among the first to show a sharp rise in price according
> to
> > > our predictions.
> > >
> > > Cataloging our collection has given us some insights into how valuable
> > > different types of meteorites really are. The good news is that
overall
> > the
> > > so-called market is recovering in most sectors and most items have
> > remained
> > > steady or increased slightly over the last quarter. It is too soon to
> > tell
> > > if it has to do with the economy as a whole.
> > >
> > > Wishing everybody the best,
> > >
> > > Adam and Greg Hupe
> > > The Hupe Collection
> > > Team LunarRock
> > > IMCA 2185
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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