[meteorite-list] AD:Not a happy 'Campo'
From: Pekka Savolainen <pekka.savolainen_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:49 2004 Message-ID: <4052AAD3.1050806_at_dlc.fi> --------------000202080408080305060107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So using 96% Ethanol is much safer and much more fun... worth to pay the taxes...;- sorry, just some finnish "weekend thoughts"... pekka s Rosemary Hackney wrote: > Usually Methanol is an impurity. It is poisonous if taken internally. > > Rosie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Matson, Robert <mailto:ROBERT.D.MATSON_at_saic.com> > To: 'Howard Wu' <mailto:freewu2000_at_yahoo.com> ; mark ford > <mailto:markf_at_ssl.gb.com> ; Bob C. > <mailto:r.cucchiara_at_comcast.net> ; > meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > <mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 12:57 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] AD:Not a happy 'Campo' > > Hi Howard, et. al., > >> Most Pure ethanol still has 4% water. Why not use 99% isopropanol, >> for the money probably the best buy. > > I think denatured alcohol is higher than 96% ethyl alcohol; > however, the > impurities put in to make it undrinkable (and thus comparatively cheap > since it isn't taxed like liquor) remind me that I should look > into what > those impurities ARE. Could be that when denatured alcohol > evaporates, > it leaves behind the sticky residue of whatever those impurities > happen > to be, and that might not be so good for meteorites. > > I'd be surprised if isopropanol was any cheaper per gallon than > denatured > alcohol -- always seems pretty expensive at the drugstore. And if > you're > using either ethanol or isopropanol as a soaking solution with sodium > hydroxide, you're going to have to add water anyway -- I don't think > NaOH is very soluble in either one. > > --Rob > > -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: eurocoin_at_smartgroups.com --------------000202080408080305060107 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> <br> So using 96% Ethanol is much safer and much more fun...<br> worth to pay the taxes...;-<br> <br> sorry, just some finnish "weekend thoughts"...<br> <br> pekka s<br> <br> <br> Rosemary Hackney wrote:<br> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid001701c40898$e83ed6a0$0671d6d1_at_default"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; "> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name="GENERATOR"> <style></style> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Usually Methanol is an impurity. It is poisonous if taken internally. </font></div> <div> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Rosie</font></div> <blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0,0,0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="background: rgb(228,228,228) none repeat scroll 50% 0%; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><b>From:</b> <a title="ROBERT.D.MATSON_at_saic.com" href="mailto:ROBERT.D.MATSON_at_saic.com">Matson, Robert</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><b>To:</b> <a title="freewu2000_at_yahoo.com" href="mailto:freewu2000@yahoo.com">'Howard Wu'</a> ; <a title="markf_at_ssl.gb.com" href="mailto:markf@ssl.gb.com">mark ford</a> ; <a title="r.cucchiara_at_comcast.net" href="mailto:r.cucchiara_at_comcast.net">Bob C.</a> ; <a title="meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com" href="mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 12, 2004 12:57 PM</div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><b>Subject:</b> [meteorite-list] AD:Not a happy 'Campo'</div> <div><br> </div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Hi Howard, et. al.,</font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"></span> </div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">> </font></span>Most Pure ethanol still has 4% water. Why not use 99% isopropanol,<span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> </font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">></font></span> for the money probably the best buy.<span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> </font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"></span> </div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I think denatured alcohol is higher than 96% ethyl alcohol; however, the</font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">impurities </font></span><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">put in</font> <font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">to make it undrinkable (and thus comparatively cheap</font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">since it isn't taxed like liquor) remind me that I should look into what</font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">those impurities ARE. Could be that when denatured alcohol evaporates,</font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">it leaves behind the sticky residue of whatever those impurities happen</font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">to be, and that might not be so good for meteorites.</font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"></span> </div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I'd be surprised if isopropanol was any cheaper per gallon than denatured</font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">alcohol -- always seems pretty expensive at the drugstore. And if you're</font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">using either ethanol or isopropanol as a soaking solution with sodium</font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">hydroxide, you're going to have to add water anyway -- I don't think</font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">NaOH is </font></span><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">very soluble in either one.</font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"></span> </div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"><font face="Arial" size="2">--Rob</font></span></div> <div><span class="152514918-12032004"></span> </div> </blockquote> </blockquote> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="$mailwrapcol">-- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin">http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin</a> Group Email Address: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eurocoin_at_smartgroups.com">eurocoin@smartgroups.com</a> </pre> <br> </body> </html> --------------000202080408080305060107--Received on Sat 13 Mar 2004 01:31:47 AM PST |
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