[meteorite-list] OT- Our position regarding the IMCA
From: Ron DiIulio <starman_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:48 2004 Message-ID: <s04eeb52.007_at_gwia.unt.edu> This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_FADBF8A2.2243EA3A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Adam (and the rest of the list). As one who was recently 'scammed' by a fraudulent dealer through ebay, I = can only laud the efforts of the IMCA to notify its members of possible = frauds. Although my ebay "win" was quite small, I discovered---much to my = disappointment---that ebay is quite reluctant to get involved in any form = of dispute. So...as has been said..."buyer beware".=20 =20 If I had read some of this group's, and IMCA's threads, prior to my sale I = would have seen all the warning flags and removed myself from the auction. = Unfortunately, I was traveling and missed the threads. However, because of = many emails from this list and IMCA members I chose to pay the fraudulent = seller via an escrow service so I could have you guys examine the = specimen. He never responded to any of my emails, nor to the escrow = service. Consequently, I never sent any payment. As a result I have my first negative response which ebay will not consider = removing!=20 =20 It's interesting to note, however, that the seller (glassface1) has a 100% = negative rating already, but ebay wouldn't respond to my call to take a = closer look at him. =20 Oh well...it was an inexpensive learning experience--it only cost me my = first negative feedback! =20 Regards, Ron DiIulio Planetarium and Astronomy Lab Director Physics Department University of North Texas >>> "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net> 03/08/04 04:53PM >>> Dear List members, We recognize that the List and IMCA are two different entities. Since = they cross over sometimes we thought we would state our position regarding the IMCA. If you are not interested please just delete this message and no = harm will have been done. It was mentioned that my brother, Greg and I do not belong to the IMCA. = We have been members since its inception and fully endorse the efforts of = this group. We do not post often because the group is managing itself pretty well. In our opinion, the IMCA is evolving into a highly respected entity by going to non-profit corporation status. It seems like the natural = thing to do since the IMCA is more and more becoming a recognized authority on such important subjects such as authenticity. Although the group has limitations regarding ebay issues, Ken is doing a professional job contacting sellers who are marketing questionable items. = I am sure this has reduced the number of frauds being committed by accident = or otherwise and for this we should all be thankful. It takes a lot of = effort to contact these vendors and for this the IMCA should be applauded. = Almost everybody including ourselves has been scammed at one time or another and = it leaves a bad taste that lasts a long time. If some buyers can be spared this I do not see a problem in trying to prevent it. As far as law suites go, we would be willing to pay for lab time and a professional scientist's report on questionable material if legal action = was brought to bear against the IMCA. We hope to see IMCA become the = benchmark on authenticity that only a coherent group as a whole can produce. The = IMCA can only reach this goal as a collective group, more powerful than any single individual. We fully endorse the IMCA, Adam and Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection IMCA 2185 ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list=20 --=_FADBF8A2.2243EA3A Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: HTML <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1"= > <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 2px; FONT: 8pt Tahoma; MARGIN-LEFT: 2px"> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Adam (and the rest of the list).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>As one who was recently 'scammed' by a fraudulent = dealer=20 through ebay, I can only laud the efforts of the IMCA to notify its = members of=20 possible frauds. Although my ebay "win" was quite small, I discovered---muc= h to=20 my disappointment---that ebay is quite reluctant to get involved=20 in any form of dispute. So...as has been said..."buyer beware".=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>If I had read some of this group's, and IMCA's = threads, prior=20 to my sale I would have seen all the warning flags and removed myself from = the=20 auction. </FONT><FONT size=3D2>Unfortunately, I was traveling and missed = the=20 threads. However, because of many emails from this list and IMCA members I = chose=20 to pay the fraudulent seller via an escrow service so I could have you = guys=20 examine the specimen. He never responded to any of my emails, nor to the = escrow=20 service. Consequently, I never sent any payment.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>As a result I have my first negative response which = ebay will=20 not consider removing! </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>It's interesting to note, however, that the seller=20 (glassface1) has a 100% negative rating already, but ebay wouldn't respond = to my=20 call to take a closer look at him.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Oh well...it was an inexpensive learning experience--it= only=20 cost me my first negative feedback!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ron DiIulio</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Planetarium and Astronomy Lab Director</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Physics Department</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>University of North Texas</FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR><BR>>>> "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net> = 03/08/04=20 04:53PM >>><BR>Dear List members,<BR><BR>We recognize that the = List and=20 IMCA are two different entities. Since they<BR>cross over sometimes = we=20 thought we would state our position regarding the<BR>IMCA. If you = are not=20 interested please just delete this message and no harm<BR>will have = been=20 done.<BR><BR>It was mentioned that my brother, Greg and I do not belong to = the=20 IMCA. We<BR>have been members since its inception and fully endorse = the=20 efforts of this<BR>group. We do not post often because the group = is=20 managing itself pretty<BR>well. In our opinion, the IMCA is evolving = into=20 a highly respected entity<BR>by going to non-profit corporation status.&nbs= p; It=20 seems like the natural thing<BR>to do since the IMCA is more and more = becoming a=20 recognized authority on<BR>such important subjects such as=20 authenticity.<BR><BR>Although the group has limitations regarding ebay = issues,=20 Ken is doing a<BR>professional job contacting sellers who are marketing=20 questionable items. I<BR>am sure this has reduced the number of = frauds=20 being committed by accident or<BR>otherwise and for this we should all = be=20 thankful. It takes a lot of effort<BR>to contact these vendors and = for=20 this the IMCA should be applauded. Almost<BR>everybody including = ourselves=20 has been scammed at one time or another and it<BR>leaves a bad taste that = lasts=20 a long time. If some buyers can be spared<BR>this I do not see a = problem=20 in trying to prevent it.<BR><BR>As far as law suites go, we would be = willing to=20 pay for lab time and a<BR>professional scientist's report on questionable= =20 material if legal action was<BR>brought to bear against the IMCA. We = hope=20 to see IMCA become the benchmark<BR>on authenticity that only a coherent = group=20 as a whole can produce. The IMCA<BR>can only reach this goal as a=20 collective group, more powerful than any<BR>single individual.<BR><BR>We = fully=20 endorse the IMCA,<BR><BR>Adam and Greg Hupe<BR>The Hupe Collection<BR>IMCA= =20 2185<BR><BR><BR>______________________________________________<BR>Meteorite= -list=20 mailing list<BR>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com<BR><A=20 href=3D"http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list">http://www= ..pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list</A><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML> --=_FADBF8A2.2243EA3A-- Received on Wed 10 Mar 2004 11:17:24 AM PST |
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