[meteorite-list] Re: Bash Bob Evans Day

From: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Jul 7 19:03:46 2004
Message-ID: <21516749.1089241412831.JavaMail.root_at_grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net>

Hmm... I see that somehow you received a private email that Mark Marconi sent to ME last evening and thought that you must continue this matter in PUBLIC by sending it to everyone else on the list. I don't even have to say anything further...your actions speak for themself "little boy". Grow up.

My apologies to all on Bob's behalf for not knowing when to quit.

Ryan


-----Original Message-----
From: Comcast Mail <bobe5531_at_comcast.net>
Sent: Jul 7, 2004 3:37 PM
To: Meteorite list <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] Re: Bash Bob Evans Day


----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Miconi <mam602_at_cox.net>
To: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
Cc: <bobe5531_at_comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Bash Bob Evans Day


> Ryan,
> WHY re you sending this to the list? Do you think anyone really cares to
see
> you snivel over a refund?
>
> Your first mistake was asking to pay for something you did not have the
> money for yet. When you are driving a cart, it helps if you see a horses
ass
> in front of you....otherwise you are putting it before the horse.
>
> If you pulled that shit with me....agree to pay for something and then
back
> out....I would tell you to kiss my ass for the deposit.... NEVER agree to
do
> something based on something that is yet to happen. You hung Bob out to
dry.
> You deliberately INTEREFERED with his auctions on eBay by asking him to
end
> them and then not completing the transaction. I WOULD REPORT YOU TO eBay.
>
> As for taking this public... That is completely unprofessional, childish
and
> uncalled for. Your mommas boy whining bullshit is best kept
private....NONE
> of us care about your troubles and until you can actually prove that Bob
> actually did anything wrong you have no right to slander him on this list.
>
> And about the Tucson crack, Hopefully you know what Bob looks
> like....otherwise your introduction to him might be a bit of a surprise.
>
> Take your whining and snivelling back to momma....she is the only one that
> cares.
>
> Mark M.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:54 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Bash Bob Evans Day
>
>
> > To set things straight once and for all......
> >
> >
> > 1. Bob, I first called you at 5:53pm CST to inquire about the refund,
yet
> you claimed that you would have to wait a few hours to send the refund via
> Paypal since you did not have internet access at the time, thus proving
yet
> another blatant lie from you; your defensive and unprofessional response
to
> my email (to the list) came through at 6:08pm CST, a time-lapse of only 15
> minutes. No internet access for a few hours???
> >
> > 2. Also, regarding the original transaction; as I had told you over the
> phone, I was unable to make the payment (in excess of $1000) due to the
> fact that I had not received a large payment that I had been expecting to
> receive from a sale that I had made. The buyer that I had made the deal
with
> finally backed out after two nearly two months of negotiations, so please
> don't act like it hasn't happened to anyone other that you before, because
> If it didn't we wouldn't be in the situation and both of us would be
happy.
> I told you that I was sorry for not being able to come through on the
deal,
> but unlike others, I have more important financial priorities over
> collecting meteorites.
> >
> > 3. I understand that you had to take the extra time to relist your
> auctions. However, per Ebay policy, odds are you didn't loose any money
as
> a result of this since no additional fees are charged to one's account if
> the unsold items sell the second time around.
> >
> > 4. "Shame on you little boy" Wow, very mature of you, Bob. At least I
> don't act like one.
> >
> >
> > I am sorry that I had to go public with this, but I believe that it has
> importance so that others can avoid any similar experiences in the future.
> Thank you for your time.
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Comcast Mail <bobe5531_at_comcast.net>
> > Sent: Jul 6, 2004 6:55 PM
> > To: Meteorite list <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>,
> > RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Bash Bob Evans Day
> >
> > Ok,
> >
> > Here goes........... The money order to Stefan was mailed out sometime
in
> > October last year. Why wait 9 months to bring it up here on the list?
> > There were some inquiries that I responded to approx. 4 months after the
> > payment was sent. Unfortunately Martin and Stefan dont want to forward
my
> > email responses.
> > I should add that Stefan is a complete gentleman, and I never accused
him
> of
> > being fraudulent.
> > Martin, If you have any proof of me accusing him of being fraudulent
.....
> > please share it with the list !
> > Of course you cant , BECAUSE I NEVER DID !
> >
> > By the way Martin......... If I never responded to your inquiries , how
> did
> > you know I accused him of being fraudulent? Can you read my mind ?????
> >
> > As for Ryan........ He requested that I cancel approx. 8 to 10 meteorite
> > ebay auctions ( which I did ) so that he may buy the whole lot. Then he
> > waits one week and tells me that he wants his $125.00 deposit back. This
> > obviously put me in a jam, anyone knows that I sell material to acquire
> new
> > meteorites.
> > So , I get pissed off and take my time refunding the money. Go ahead and
> > shoot me!! Some Dealers would have told him to go to hell for wasting
> their
> > time and would never have dealt with him again.
> >
> > So beware of Ryan he likes to have you cancel auctions, pay a deposit
and
> > then later back out and ask for a refund. Shame on you little boy
> >
> > As for the other people Ive dealt with in my short time collecting, I
want
> > to say I appreciate all of the sales, trades, discussions etc.
> > To name a few Mike Farmer, Dave Shultz, Steve Arnold Chgo., Michael
Blood,
> > Eric Olsen, Rob Wesel, Jim Schwade, Bob Cucciara, Bob Haag
> >
> > Ask them If I ever stiffed them on money.
> >
> > And please have a look at my ebay feedback user ID : maccers531
> > Sorry, no evidence of fraud there either.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Bob Evans
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
> > To: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>;
> > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:46 PM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans
> >
> >
> > > I must warn the list of Bob Evans as well. I was supposed to receive a
> > $125 refund from Bob over a month ago and I still have not received my
> money
> > back, nor have I recieved a response from him after several email and
> phone
> > call attempts. Well, I checked his Ebay history a few days ago and
noticed
> > that he had placed a $1500 bid on a meteorite not too long ago, yet he
> > cannot afford to return my hard-earned money back to me? Never again! I
> warn
> > everyone else not to do any business with Bob Evans. His
> unprofessionalism
> > is a joke.
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
> > > Sent: Jul 6, 2004 7:08 AM
> > > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans
> > >
> > > Hello list!
> > >
> > > Great stone - always a pleasure to watch the meteorite of the day at
> > > Spacerocksinc!
> > >
> > > As nice as the specimen may be, the owner isn't.
> > >
> > > I never did this before and hope not to have to do it in future,
> > > but I have to warn everyone on this list to make business with Bob
> Evans.
> > >
> > > Bob Evans ordered from wellknown list member Stefan Ralew last autumn
> > > meteorites for 1000$.
> > > Stefan sent the specimens, but they aren't paid until today.
> > > Bob Evans stated to have sent a money order, but it never arrived.
> > > Well a letter always can be lost in mail and with checks or money
orders
> > > it's really no problem to block it and to issue a new one.
> > > Instead of this Bob Evans claimed, that Stefan recieved the money (he
> > > didn't).
> > > Each bank can verify easy, whether a check was cashed. It's a question
> of
> > a
> > > few minutes.
> > > Bob Evans refused to ask at his bank, kept the stones and continues to
> > claim
> > > Stefan to be fraudulent.
> > >
> > > This is a completely improper behaviour and in my eyes the meteorite
> > > community just has no need for such persons.
> > >
> > > You may think, that this is not my cup of tea, but I know Stefan to be
> of
> > > modest character, so that he never would address to the list in that
> case.
> > I
> > > wrote also to Evans personnally with no reactions.
> > > 1000$ are quite a sum and we all know Stefan for his efforts to offer
> > > meteorites of outstanding quality at extreme low prices.
> > > With this mail I want to preserve both collectors and dealers from
> similar
> > > experiences with Mr.Bob Evans.
> > >
> > > So:
> > > Please don't sell to or trade with Bob Evans, nor bid on his auctions
> (ID:
> > > maccers531)
> > > until he will have solved that situation.
> > >
> > > To avoid misunderstandings: Spacerocksinc has nothing to do with that
> > thing.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot!
> > > Martin Altmann
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: SPACEROCKSINC_at_aol.com
> > > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:06 PM
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - July
6,
> > 2004
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/July_6.html
> > >
> > > IMCA#5184
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
> > > Sent: Jul 6, 2004 7:08 AM
> > > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans
> > >
> > > Hello list!
> > >
> > > Great stone - always a pleasure to watch the meteorite of the day at
> > > Spacerocksinc!
> > >
> > > As nice as the specimen may be, the owner isn't.
> > >
> > > I never did this before and hope not to have to do it in future,
> > > but I have to warn everyone on this list to make business with Bob
> Evans.
> > >
> > > Bob Evans ordered from wellknown list member Stefan Ralew last autumn
> > > meteorites for 1000$.
> > > Stefan sent the specimens, but they aren't paid until today.
> > > Bob Evans stated to have sent a money order, but it never arrived.
> > > Well a letter always can be lost in mail and with checks or money
orders
> > > it's really no problem to block it and to issue a new one.
> > > Instead of this Bob Evans claimed, that Stefan recieved the money (he
> > > didn't).
> > > Each bank can verify easy, whether a check was cashed. It's a question
> of
> > a
> > > few minutes.
> > > Bob Evans refused to ask at his bank, kept the stones and continues to
> > claim
> > > Stefan to be fraudulent.
> > >
> > > This is a completely improper behaviour and in my eyes the meteorite
> > > community just has no need for such persons.
> > >
> > > You may think, that this is not my cup of tea, but I know Stefan to be
> of
> > > modest character, so that he never would address to the list in that
> case.
> > I
> > > wrote also to Evans personnally with no reactions.
> > > 1000$ are quite a sum and we all know Stefan for his efforts to offer
> > > meteorites of outstanding quality at extreme low prices.
> > > With this mail I want to preserve both collectors and dealers from
> similar
> > > experiences with Mr.Bob Evans.
> > >
> > > So:
> > > Please don't sell to or trade with Bob Evans, nor bid on his auctions
> (ID:
> > > maccers531)
> > > until he will have solved that situation.
> > >
> > > To avoid misunderstandings: Spacerocksinc has nothing to do with that
> > thing.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot!
> > > Martin Altmann
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: SPACEROCKSINC_at_aol.com
> > > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:06 PM
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - July
6,
> > 2004
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/July_6.html
> > >
> > > IMCA#5184
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ______________________________________________
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> > > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
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> > >
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