[meteorite-list] Re: Bash Bob Evans Day

From: Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Jul 7 01:14:49 2004
Message-ID: <011101c463e1$525944f0$0200a8c0_at_S0031628003>

Mauro, AKA Matteo. Hey Matteo, you back on ebay yet?
Mike Farmer
We are not idiots like yourself.





----- Original Message -----
From: "Mauro Daniel" <rocksfromspace_at_hotmail.com>
To: <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:41 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Bash Bob Evans Day


> Bob Evans its another Cosmicvisitors alias Brad Sampson...sent money no
> material, useless excuses aside the mailbox not go etc.....
>
>
>
> >From: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
> >Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
> >To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Bash Bob Evans Day
> >Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 19:54:09 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> >
> >To set things straight once and for all......
> >
> >
> >1. Bob, I first called you at 5:53pm CST to inquire about the refund, yet
> >you claimed that you would have to wait a few hours to send the refund
via
> >Paypal since you did not have internet access at the time, thus proving
yet
> >another blatant lie from you; your defensive and unprofessional response
> >to my email (to the list) came through at 6:08pm CST, a time-lapse of
only
> >15 minutes. No internet access for a few hours???
> >
> >2. Also, regarding the original transaction; as I had told you over the
> >phone, I was unable to make the payment (in excess of $1000) due to the
> >fact that I had not received a large payment that I had been expecting to
> >receive from a sale that I had made. The buyer that I had made the deal
> >with finally backed out after two nearly two months of negotiations, so
> >please don't act like it hasn't happened to anyone other that you before,
> >because If it didn't we wouldn't be in the situation and both of us would
> >be happy. I told you that I was sorry for not being able to come through
> >on the deal, but unlike others, I have more important financial
priorities
> >over collecting meteorites.
> >
> >3. I understand that you had to take the extra time to relist your
> >auctions. However, per Ebay policy, odds are you didn't loose any money
as
> >a result of this since no additional fees are charged to one's account if
> >the unsold items sell the second time around.
> >
> >4. "Shame on you little boy" Wow, very mature of you, Bob. At least I
> >don't act like one.
> >
> >
> >I am sorry that I had to go public with this, but I believe that it has
> >importance so that others can avoid any similar experiences in the
future.
> >Thank you for your time.
> >
> >Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Comcast Mail <bobe5531_at_comcast.net>
> >Sent: Jul 6, 2004 6:55 PM
> >To: Meteorite list <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>,
> > RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Bash Bob Evans Day
> >
> >Ok,
> >
> >Here goes........... The money order to Stefan was mailed out sometime in
> >October last year. Why wait 9 months to bring it up here on the list?
> >There were some inquiries that I responded to approx. 4 months after the
> >payment was sent. Unfortunately Martin and Stefan dont want to forward my
> >email responses.
> >I should add that Stefan is a complete gentleman, and I never accused him
> >of
> >being fraudulent.
> >Martin, If you have any proof of me accusing him of being fraudulent
.....
> >please share it with the list !
> >Of course you cant , BECAUSE I NEVER DID !
> >
> >By the way Martin......... If I never responded to your inquiries , how
did
> >you know I accused him of being fraudulent? Can you read my mind ?????
> >
> >As for Ryan........ He requested that I cancel approx. 8 to 10 meteorite
> >ebay auctions ( which I did ) so that he may buy the whole lot. Then he
> >waits one week and tells me that he wants his $125.00 deposit back. This
> >obviously put me in a jam, anyone knows that I sell material to acquire
new
> >meteorites.
> >So , I get pissed off and take my time refunding the money. Go ahead and
> >shoot me!! Some Dealers would have told him to go to hell for wasting
their
> >time and would never have dealt with him again.
> >
> >So beware of Ryan he likes to have you cancel auctions, pay a deposit
and
> >then later back out and ask for a refund. Shame on you little boy
> >
> >As for the other people Ive dealt with in my short time collecting, I
want
> >to say I appreciate all of the sales, trades, discussions etc.
> >To name a few Mike Farmer, Dave Shultz, Steve Arnold Chgo., Michael
Blood,
> >Eric Olsen, Rob Wesel, Jim Schwade, Bob Cucciara, Bob Haag
> >
> >Ask them If I ever stiffed them on money.
> >
> >And please have a look at my ebay feedback user ID : maccers531
> >Sorry, no evidence of fraud there either.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Bob Evans
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
> >To: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>;
> ><meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:46 PM
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans
> >
> >
> > > I must warn the list of Bob Evans as well. I was supposed to receive a
> >$125 refund from Bob over a month ago and I still have not received my
> >money
> >back, nor have I recieved a response from him after several email and
phone
> >call attempts. Well, I checked his Ebay history a few days ago and
noticed
> >that he had placed a $1500 bid on a meteorite not too long ago, yet he
> >cannot afford to return my hard-earned money back to me? Never again! I
> >warn
> >everyone else not to do any business with Bob Evans. His
unprofessionalism
> >is a joke.
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
> > > Sent: Jul 6, 2004 7:08 AM
> > > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans
> > >
> > > Hello list!
> > >
> > > Great stone - always a pleasure to watch the meteorite of the day at
> > > Spacerocksinc!
> > >
> > > As nice as the specimen may be, the owner isn't.
> > >
> > > I never did this before and hope not to have to do it in future,
> > > but I have to warn everyone on this list to make business with Bob
> >Evans.
> > >
> > > Bob Evans ordered from wellknown list member Stefan Ralew last autumn
> > > meteorites for 1000$.
> > > Stefan sent the specimens, but they aren't paid until today.
> > > Bob Evans stated to have sent a money order, but it never arrived.
> > > Well a letter always can be lost in mail and with checks or money
orders
> > > it's really no problem to block it and to issue a new one.
> > > Instead of this Bob Evans claimed, that Stefan recieved the money (he
> > > didn't).
> > > Each bank can verify easy, whether a check was cashed. It's a question
> >of
> >a
> > > few minutes.
> > > Bob Evans refused to ask at his bank, kept the stones and continues to
> >claim
> > > Stefan to be fraudulent.
> > >
> > > This is a completely improper behaviour and in my eyes the meteorite
> > > community just has no need for such persons.
> > >
> > > You may think, that this is not my cup of tea, but I know Stefan to be
> >of
> > > modest character, so that he never would address to the list in that
> >case.
> >I
> > > wrote also to Evans personnally with no reactions.
> > > 1000$ are quite a sum and we all know Stefan for his efforts to offer
> > > meteorites of outstanding quality at extreme low prices.
> > > With this mail I want to preserve both collectors and dealers from
> >similar
> > > experiences with Mr.Bob Evans.
> > >
> > > So:
> > > Please don't sell to or trade with Bob Evans, nor bid on his auctions
> >(ID:
> > > maccers531)
> > > until he will have solved that situation.
> > >
> > > To avoid misunderstandings: Spacerocksinc has nothing to do with that
> >thing.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot!
> > > Martin Altmann
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: SPACEROCKSINC_at_aol.com
> > > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:06 PM
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - July
6,
> >2004
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/July_6.html
> > >
> > > IMCA#5184
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
> > > Sent: Jul 6, 2004 7:08 AM
> > > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans
> > >
> > > Hello list!
> > >
> > > Great stone - always a pleasure to watch the meteorite of the day at
> > > Spacerocksinc!
> > >
> > > As nice as the specimen may be, the owner isn't.
> > >
> > > I never did this before and hope not to have to do it in future,
> > > but I have to warn everyone on this list to make business with Bob
> >Evans.
> > >
> > > Bob Evans ordered from wellknown list member Stefan Ralew last autumn
> > > meteorites for 1000$.
> > > Stefan sent the specimens, but they aren't paid until today.
> > > Bob Evans stated to have sent a money order, but it never arrived.
> > > Well a letter always can be lost in mail and with checks or money
orders
> > > it's really no problem to block it and to issue a new one.
> > > Instead of this Bob Evans claimed, that Stefan recieved the money (he
> > > didn't).
> > > Each bank can verify easy, whether a check was cashed. It's a question
> >of
> >a
> > > few minutes.
> > > Bob Evans refused to ask at his bank, kept the stones and continues to
> >claim
> > > Stefan to be fraudulent.
> > >
> > > This is a completely improper behaviour and in my eyes the meteorite
> > > community just has no need for such persons.
> > >
> > > You may think, that this is not my cup of tea, but I know Stefan to be
> >of
> > > modest character, so that he never would address to the list in that
> >case.
> >I
> > > wrote also to Evans personnally with no reactions.
> > > 1000$ are quite a sum and we all know Stefan for his efforts to offer
> > > meteorites of outstanding quality at extreme low prices.
> > > With this mail I want to preserve both collectors and dealers from
> >similar
> > > experiences with Mr.Bob Evans.
> > >
> > > So:
> > > Please don't sell to or trade with Bob Evans, nor bid on his auctions
> >(ID:
> > > maccers531)
> > > until he will have solved that situation.
> > >
> > > To avoid misunderstandings: Spacerocksinc has nothing to do with that
> >thing.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot!
> > > Martin Altmann
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: SPACEROCKSINC_at_aol.com
> > > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:06 PM
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - July
6,
> >2004
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/July_6.html
> > >
> > > IMCA#5184
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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