[meteorite-list] Meteorwrong help?

From: Roman Nakonechny <uraninut239__at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:11 2004
Message-ID: <Law9-F606VEWqSvaiHd00028860_at_hotmail.com>

Thanks John,
                Dont sell yourself short- you're not a slow American. If
you're a slow American then I'm "so slow" that I'm on a respirator and
waiting for a new heart. I was a spelling champ, math was the most useless
bit of crap at the young age of 13+ onward through high school. But that
was quite a while back. If you can do those calculations you're either very
young or you practice them , or it's part of you're job , or you had to
help your kid with physics. Whatever it may be, you're ahead of a lot of
people and not slow. But be carefull if you ever start bathing meteorites.
Researchers at Corn Stalk, Nebraska University For Human Behavior have
found that bathing meteorites (in warm scented water) can be a very sensual
experience and can also lead to abuse, if you're so pre-disposed. Then if
you're caught , you're labeled a rock molester, and the neighborhood has
to get notified of your sad criminal propensity for jumping fences and
touching the unprotected rocks. Dont even start bathing meteorites- they'll
ruin your life.
And you know what they do to rock touchers in prison. ={:-)>
Hope I did'nt scare you. You can tell it's Friday night, cant you?
G O O D N I G H T - Enjoy your weekend. ~~~~~~~~~~*
>From: j.divelbiss_at_att.net
>To: "Roman Nakonechny" <uraninut239__at_hotmail.com>
>CC: knudson911_at_frontiernet.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrong help?
>Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 13:35:59 +0000
>
>Roman and others,
>
>Specific gravity...we've all seen the picture of weighing a specimen out of
>water and then in water to come up with specific gravity. You need a scale
>that can hang the object you are weighing in the water. I don't remember
>the
>method details but the answer is usually stated in grams per centimeter
>cubed.
>
>I have used my own method for a while to do the same where I weigh the
>object
>on a scale and convert that weight to ounces (dumb English system!)
>
>Then I use a cylinder(round) shaped coffee can for small items, or a
>straight
>sided bucket for larger items to determine the volume of the object by the
>change in height of the water: first without the object and then with the
>object. As a slow American I use a stick rule in inches to figure this out.
>
>so it goes like this:
>
>determine weight in OUNCES
>
>Determine the change in volume in the water level by measuring the:
>HEIGHT without object first
>HEIGHT with the object second
>
>The difference in height in inches is then used to calculate the SG along
>with some conversions factors to get it into grams/centimeter cubed.
>
>change or delta Volume = Area of container circle x inches in
>height(change)
>delta V =(pie or 3.14...)x diameter(inches) squared)x(height change in
>inches)
>delta V is a number in inches cubed
>
>the conversion formula without all the details is as follows:
>
>(object in OUNCES/delta V in inches cubed)x(0.06102/0.03527) = SG in
>grams/cm
>
>0.06102 is the conversion of cubic inches to cubic centimeters
>0.03527 is the conversion of ounces to grams.
>
>For the smart users of metric the metric system....the answer is determined
>by the change in volume in cubic centimeters cubed and the weight in grams
>or:
>
>Weight in grams/change in Volume in centimetes cubed (now that seems easier
>doesn't it) = grams/cm cubed
>
>Bottom line is most rocks have SG of 1.5 to 3, heavier rocks full of iron
>
>like stony meteorites are in the 3 to 5 range, and steel and it's metal
>friends like iron meteorites are in the neighborhood of 7 to 8. Silver and
>Lead in the 10 to 11 range and gold all the way up near 18 to 19.
>
>Have fun and don't get wet. (I don't do this with known meteorites)
>
>John
>
>
>
> > Hi Tom. I have a hell of a collection of US STEEL processed metal
>chunks
> > and raw ore (especially the terrestrial gorgeous blood red, sometimes
> > orange/brown and even fluorescent bright yellow Iron Ores , from the
>500Ft.
> > down level I was told by a Smelter bldg. worker 20yrs. back-half the
>stuff
>I
> > havent figured out yet. They share one common trait- they are all hard
> > -you'll have a hard time scratcing one but they do chip-off fairly
>easily.
> > Some have a black as night oxide coating. Some have a brown and light
>brown
> > coating, but they're not mine ore-they're processed rare earth
> > metals/elements -by electrolysis or what have ya.. You know , there's
>one
>
> > piece that has the dimensions 2+1/2 x 2+1/2 x1 inches , and you have
>to
> > struggle picking it up with your index finger and thumb- Yes, I do have
> > three more fully functioning fingers Tom. They sure have their
>differences
> > as far as hardness ,streak, weight in the hand (specific gravity).I wish
> > someone would show me how you test a sample for its specific gravity. My
> > pieces, that I found, as far away as 2miles from the USX Ore
>Locomotives
> > Tracks are all different processed metals for specific custom alloying
> > metals ,I think? I used to do some metal-detecting in this humongous
> > old-growth 300yr. old trees Pubic Park as Matteo would say, and I figure
> > some of the pieces had to have gotten that far and sometimes closer too,
>by
> > kids and adults picking them up and then playing (kids) and losing them
>.As
> > a treasure hunter you quickly learn to see how movement of underground
> > artifacts or above ground stuff like 100yr. old soda bottles might have
>
> > gotten where they did. But to answer your question it's probably a
>processed
> > metal ore. Do a streak test on it . Get a piece of broken or extra
> > porcelain tile or if you happen to find an old toilet lid , crack a
>nice
> > piece off for youself so you have a scrach pad- to do the streak test
>for
> > color. You can chip down the larger piece of lid to the size you want.
>Also
> > Tom, My 30 some odd pieces - not one is magnetic except for the Natural
> > Iron Ores. Later
> > G O O D N I G H T
> >
> >
> > >From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <knudson911_at_frontiernet.net>
> > >To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > >Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrong help?
> > >Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:35:08 -0700
> > >
> > >Hello List, My (soon to be ex) mother in law showed me a rock she
>found in
> > >Oklahoma a few years ago. My first impression was cool a iron
>meteorite!
> > >The weight and the appearance was perfect but nothing happened when I
>got
>
> > >out the magnet. My second guess was lead, but its to hard. A little
>window
> > >revels that it is nice and shiny on the inside. It is not slag, or at
>least
> > >not like any I have seen and I have seen my fair share! Also, it sure
>looks
> > >natural I do not know what's in OK as far as minerals go so I am at a
> > >loss.
> > >Any ideas, metal that is does not attract a magnet?
> > >Thanks, Tom
> > >peregrineflier <><
> > >IMCA #6168
> > >
> > >
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