[meteorite-list] FWD: Spanish daylight meteor - Fireball info

From: Robert Verish <bolidechaser_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:00 2004
Message-ID: <20040108014551.35726.qmail_at_web60310.mail.yahoo.com>

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meteorobs-digest Wednesday, January 7 2004
Volume 04 : Number 1309


Re: Different Spanish fireball Saturday
Re: Spanish daylight meteor
Fireball Report 8.45pm Jan 1st 2004, san diego, CA

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:58:19 +0100
From: "Marco Langbroek" <marco.langbroek_at_wanadoo.nl>
Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Different Spanish fireball
Saturday

> Oscar A. Rodriguez / PMEE-SPACE posted the following

>link to the SeeSat-L mailing list. It has Saturday's

>date and looks entirely different, and the narration
>(in Spanish) says that it lasted two minutes, I
>believe. This one to me looks like it might possibly

>be a sunset-illuminated aircraft contrail, but a
>somewhat unusual one.


I fully agree with Ed, having seen the video clip.
This was an aircraft contrail, filmed the day before
the true fireball of Jan 4.

- - Marco

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:25:16 +0100
From: "Marco Langbroek" <marco.langbroek_at_wanadoo.nl>
Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Spanish daylight meteor

> I haven't checked the video, but in this page you
> can find the report passed on TV in the news and the

> path of the fireball:
>
<http://www.a3n.tv/mNoticia.asp?seccion=Noticias/%DAltima%20hora&news=6400682&scl=0>
>
> Good nights... of good observing!

Victor,

Some caution is in order here. The maps shown in the
news probably merely show the distribution of sighting
locations (which is influenced by a.o. weather), not
the trajectory. The video from Leon probably is
looking away from the sun (sunlit wall with shadow
visible), probably north-northeast, and in this video
it should move to the right if the trajectory shown on
the news maps is correct. Yet in the video it moves at
a ~ 45 degree angle to the left, not the right. This
is only possible for someone north of the trajectory
looking south if the directions given in the news
would be correct: but that cannot be given the shadow
& sunlight on the appartement building in the video.


I found the fireball on the video to move rather fast,
so I doubt whether there are any meteorites.

- - Marco

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Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 11:59:49 +0000
From: meteors_at_comcast.net
Subject: (meteorobs) Fireball Report 8.45pm Jan 1st
2004, san diego/california (fwd)

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From: NAMN Fireball Reports <namn_at_atmob.org>
Cc: martinfr62_at_yahoo.com
Subject: Fireball Report 8.45pm Jan 1st 2004, san
diego/california
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 00:07:28 -0500 (EST)

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Your Name? Martin Franklin


Your Town/State/Country? San Marcos/California/USA


Date and Time? 8.45pm Jan 1st 2004


What compass direction did the fireball appear from?
se


What compass direction did the fireball DISAPPEAR
from? se


How long, in seconds, were you able to see it in the
sky? 3


How many degrees off the horizon was it when it
APPEARED?
(As a reference, a closed fist held at arm's length is
approximately 10 degrees.)
  50


How many degrees off the horizon was it when it
DISAPPEARED? 0


How bright did it appear?
Like a star, Venus, the Moon, or the setting Sun?
  venus


Did it have any color(s)? white/blue/red tail


Did it appear to fall apart as it went by? What did
that look like?
  split into two 5 deg apart when drop behind horizon


Did it leave a persistent streak in the sky after it
was gone?
How long did that last?
  yes - 1 to 2 seconds


How fast did it move? Use a 1 to 5 scale, 1 being
VERY slow, and 5 being extremely quick.
  5


Did you hear a sound?
If yes, what was the time delay from sighting to
sound?
  no


What is the closest Town/State to where you saw the
fireball?
  san diego/california


Please put any additional remarks, sketches, drawings,
etc. below:
  Dropped below horizon (hill in way approx 30 deg
above horizontal.)
Was viewing saturn/moon. Dropped to right of end of
Orion. Took bearing with compass. Moon was up,
appeared atleast as bright.

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