[meteorite-list] University of Alabama Scientist Searches For Life on Mars - Microbes May Eat Iron
From: Marcia Swanson <MJSOfArc_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:31:58 2004 Message-ID: <13153-3FFA349A-3684_at_storefull-3213.bay.webtv.net> --WebTV-Mail-5935-1921 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Dear Ron and List, How about going down this line, as a possible theory? Not that long ago, the subject came up about Lawrencite, oozing and being in meteorites in Wisconsin , Tennessee, Italy and Russia., while not listed in 99% of meteorite collections. Volcanic areas, I think you posted that last bit E.Jones ,on Oct.23,2003? I have heard it referred to as a kind of chemical weathering process and sickeness to some meteorites after they leave the dry and colder surface of Mars as it is now, but may not have always been., as the recent findings of olivine on surface of Mars, might indicate. Ron B., (the olivine covering of mar's surface) I think you mentioned this also on Oct. 23,2003? The reason it eats the metal quick here on earth is because it is exposed to more air and water, right?And only air tight sealing in dry nitrigen gas can hold off final destruction of the small, amount of meteorites , collected, here on earth thus far, that contain it. Lawrensite has a property called "deliquescence", meaning it absorbs water from air and liquifies, to form geenish-brown ooze, that eats the iron contents. Could that ooze, kept under control in Mars's climate, be the microbes that feed off of iron there, as a life form.but change properties, here on earth to iron oxides and hydroclhoric acids, and accelerate rusting, or eating of meteorites, at a rapid speed, if the meteorite or specimen is affected with the Lawrensite ( a now listed , meteoric mineral) due to our atmosphere? Hope not. But to prove or disprove that theory, the specimens will have to be kept in air tight cannisters, ect.? Anybody have any input on this subject and/or the possibiliies? Hopefully I'm totally wrong on my data. It could explain why here on earth there aren't many found to be studied, in comparison to the 99% other found on earth meteorites? Where in space, the iron eating is kept under control. Just wonder what others think? I guess only time will tell. But would be interested in others comments. Best Regards, Marcie --WebTV-Mail-5935-1921 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-3219.bay.webtv.net (209.240.204.183) by storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pairlist.net (pairlist.net [216.92.1.92]) by smtpin-3219.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id CB9D811DDD; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pairlist.net (localhost.pair.com [127.0.0.1]) by pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9080B5387F; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:55:19 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: meteorite-list_at_pairlist.net Received: from mu.pair.com (mu.pair.com [209.68.1.23]) by pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E8399535CF for <meteorite-list_at_lists.meteoritecentral.com>; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:42:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 77084 invoked by uid 7111); 5 Jan 2004 22:42:34 -0000 Delivered-To: arthur-meteoritecentral:com-meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Received: (qmail 75645 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2004 22:40:54 -0000 Received: from zagami.jpl.nasa.gov (137.78.16.91) by mu.pair.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2004 22:40:54 -0000 Received: (from baalke_at_localhost) by zagami.jpl.nasa.gov (8.9.3p3/8.9.3) id OAA22719 for meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 14:40:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Baalke <baalke_at_zagami.jpl.nasa.gov> Message-Id: <200401052240.OAA22719_at_zagami.jpl.nasa.gov> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [meteorite-list] University of Alabama Scientist Searches For Life on Mars - Microbes May Eat Iron Sender: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com Errors-To: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com X-BeenThere: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:meteorite-list-request_at_meteoritecentral.com?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> List-Subscribe: <http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list>, <mailto:meteorite-list-request_at_meteoritecentral.com?subject=subscribe> List-Id: Meteorite Discussion Forum <meteorite-list.meteoritecentral.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list>, <mailto:meteorite-list-request_at_meteoritecentral.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 14:40:23 -0800 (PST) X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/107329771346791.xml UA scientist searches for life on Mars Microbes may eat iron, may use it to breath KENT FAULK The Birmingham News January 5, 2004 Life on Mars, if it exists, could have iron constitutions. Crawling beneath the rust-colored Martian soil could be tiny microbes that feed off iron. Other microbes could use iron to breathe. University of Alabama researcher Eric Roden believes such odd life forms could or could have once existed on Mars. Such microbes exist in many earthly places, including Alabama. "It's well-known that organisms that use iron to gain energy for life are present in many different kinds of geologic environments on Earth," Roden said. He has gotten nearly $500,000 from NASA to study these tiny microbes over the next five years as part of the BioMars project. The University of California at Berkeley-led project is identifying sites on Mars where water - and life - may be or may have once been. Then, researchers will look at places on Earth with similar environments to determine under what conditions creatures could exist there. "There's very little reason to expect there are now or ever were plants or animals," on Mars, Roden said. "We're talking about microbial life." If such microbial life does exist, it'll have to be just below the surface, Roden said. The planet doesn't have an atmosphere like Earth's that can protect it from constant zaps by dangerous doses of ultraviolet radiation, he said. To survive, life would need to have water, Roden said. The planet - where temperatures average 81 degrees below zero - does have ice, and from time to time it could melt and turn into water just below the surface. As for food, Roden believes some microbes could be feeding off Mars' abundance of iron. This kind of microbe takes reduced iron, which is in a form that contains electrons that may serve as a source of energy, from rocks like basalt, he said. Oxidized iron is what gives Mars its rust-colored appearance. Mars' atmosphere is made up of about .2 percent oxygen - about 100 times less than that of Earth but still probably enough to sustain tiny iron-eating microbes, Roden said. But there's another kind of microbe Roden is looking at - one that breathes oxidized iron and eats hydrogen. Mars does have some hydrogen in its atmosphere and there could be hydrogen coming from fissures in the planet's surface. Iron-breathing and iron-eating microbes can be found in all kinds of geologic systems on Earth, Roden said. One of the best places to find iron-eating microbes is in the acid drainage that comes from coal mines, he said. There's also evidence they feed off the iron from basalt rock found near the volcanic vents in the sea floor on Earth, Roden said. Iron-breathing microbes exist in all kinds of environments, such as deep within the iron rich soils of Alabama where no oxygen is available. For more than a decade, Roden has been studying iron, the microbes that use it to sustain life, and the role it might one-day play in cleaning up pollutants. He's studied iron-breathing and iron-eating microbes found in swamps of the Talladega National Forest. He's worked on U.S. Department of Energy funded projects to look at the potential for iron-breathing microbes to control waste such as uranium and cobalt from nuclear weapons manufacturing sites. The iron-breathing microbes could keep the waste from migrating farther in the subsurface soils and getting into underground water supplies. The hopes that iron-eating and -breathing microbes could be or could have at one time been at work on Mars were bolstered during the late 1990s when it was reported that a meteorite found on Earth had minerals that could have been produced by mineral-breathing microbes. Roden and undergraduate student Ryan St. John will hike into areas around Abert Lake in Oregon later this year on the first trip out west to get samples from formations similar to those found on Mars. A mountainous rim with basalt rock surrounds the closed-in lake, Roden said. Samples from rocks and water from their trips will be brought back for analysis to see whether such iron-eating and -breathing microbes are living, or can live, in such conditions, Roden said. Roden and other researchers working on BioMars projects won't be playing a role in the missions of the Spirit and Opportunity rovers, the first of which landed on the red planet this weekend. But the hope is one day the BioMars research will help NASA guide robots - and maybe even one day astronauts - to the most likely places to find life on Mars, Roden said. Among the other thrusts of BioMars are public education and training a new generation of astrobiologists who can understand a broad range of subjects they'll need to look at environments on other planets. "It may be the next generation that might be able to determine whether there is - or was - life on Mars," Roden said. ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list --WebTV-Mail-5935-1921-- Received on Mon 05 Jan 2004 11:07:54 PM PST |
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