[meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

From: Ron DiIulio <starman_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:31:26 2004
Message-ID: <s039de43.097_at_gwia.unt.edu>

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Friends,
Thanks for all of the responses to my "successful" bid on a "Martian" =
meteorite!!
=20
Armed with all of your emails as well as some legal support, I intend to =
pursue this Ebay fraud to eliminate this person from future postings (at =
least under his current ebay membership).
=20
If you wish to contribute any additional anecdotal, or first-hand =
experience with this seller please advise me. I'll add it to the ever-growi=
ng list of "interesting" emails that I intend to present to the Ebay =
corporate office!=20
=20
This seller didn't realize he might be taking on the State of Texas with =
this apparant fraud!
=20
By the way, we have NOT made payment, and are attempting to ascertain how =
to proceed with this without using an escrow service.=20
An email has been sent to the seller (glassface1) advising him that he is =
facing a serious problem!
=20
Regards,
Ron DiIulio
Planetarium and Astronomy Lab Director
Physics Department
University of North Texas
>>> "Tom aka James Knudson" <knudson911_at_frontiernet.net> 02/22/04 08:50PM =
>>>
Randy, Ebay rule of thumb # 2, the one you never see!

IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO PLAY - DON'T PAY

(joke) : )
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
IMCA #6168
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy aka Randy Mils <acculabs_at_hotmail.com>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock


> Ebay rule of thumb #1:
>
> IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY - DON'T PLAY.
>
> Randy the Rambler
>
> >From: "Tom aka James Knudson"
> >To: "MarkF" ,
> >CC:
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock
> >Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:09:07 -0700
> >
> >Hello List, I am the high bidder now, God someone please out bid me, I
can't
> >afford it!
> >Thanks, Tom
> >peregrineflier <><
> >IMCA #6168
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: MarkF
> >To:
> >Cc:
> >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:57 PM
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock
> >
> >
> > > You realize too that you can also retract bids for a reason
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 4:27 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock
> > >
> > >
> > > > 44 bids in one hour...not a bad start.
> > > >
> > > > Can I bid on my own stuff?...they look almost too good to sell.
Maybe
> >they
> > > are from out there and were transported down with the that new Slag
that
> >was
> > > made on Mars?
> > > >
> > > > JD
> > > >
> > > > PS Thanx for the push Adam. I've been tempted to do this all week.
> > > > > Everyone should just bid on this auction just enough to be
registered
> >as
> > > a
> > > > > bid. If it gets enough bids it will attract attention just
because of
> > > the
> > > > > number of bids. I just bid ten times in increments of the =
minimum
of
> > > six
> > > > > cents and Gregory is still high bidder at only $1.01 !!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From:
> > > > > To: "Adam Hupe"
> > > > > Cc:
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 3:24 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Adam and others,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is the same igneous rock he was slicing and calling DAG =
476.
It
> >is
> > > > > basalt or gabbro....the green look to it maybe olivne but more
likely
> > > > > epidote. What was the name of that character that Art has =
banned
in
> >the
> > > > > past...not Matteo..before him. This is starting to have the
feel/look
> >of
> > > > > someone who wants to screw with us purposely. Proud Tom????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As many of you know I have similar material...I just put some =
up
for
> > > sale
> > > > > today(see below) as a spoof in return to Mr./Ms. Glassface.
> >Contribution
> > > of
> > > > > payment will be to the IMCA and its development...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JD
> > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2227754521=
=20
> > > > > > > Dear List,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This Glassface seller on ebay is a real clown and a poor con
> >artist.
> > > He
> > > > > > > just listed a piece of Martian basalt that he claims has
> > > preferentially
> > > > > > > aligned OPX crystals. This is simply amazing considering
there
> >are
> > > only
> > > > > two
> > > > > > > such stones in the world for a TKW of only 378 grams making =
it
the
> > > > > rarest
> > > > > > > Martian subclass in existence
> > > > > "Olivine-Orthopyroxene-Phyric-Shergottite". I
> > > > > > > guess if you are going to make something up you may as well
make
> >it
> > > as
> > > > > rare
> > > > > > > as humanly possible and claim it came from Rissani, how
> >ridiculous.
> > > It
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > even bargain priced at $300.00, what a hero! To see this
fraud,
> > > check
> > > > > out
> > > > > > > the auction link below:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D3239&item=3D22276=
83715=20
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This zero rated idiot has got to go!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All the best,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Adam
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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<DIV>Friends,</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for all of the responses to my "successful" bid on a =
"Martian"=20
meteorite!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Armed with all of your emails as well as some legal support, I intend =
to=20
pursue this Ebay fraud to eliminate this person from future postings (at =
least=20
under his current ebay membership).</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If you wish to contribute any additional anecdotal, or first-hand=20
experience with this seller please advise me. I'll add it to the ever-growi=
ng=20
list of "interesting" emails that I intend to present to the Ebay =
corporate=20
office! </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This seller didn't realize he might be taking on the State of Texas =
with=20
this apparant fraud!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>By the way, we have NOT made payment, and are attempting to ascertain =
how=20
to proceed with this without using an escrow service. </DIV>
<DIV>An email has been sent to the seller (glassface1) advising him that =
he is=20
facing a serious problem!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
<DIV>Ron DiIulio</DIV>
<DIV>Planetarium and Astronomy Lab Director</DIV>
<DIV>Physics Department</DIV>
<DIV>University of North Texas<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Tom aka James Knudson"=20
&lt;knudson911_at_frontiernet.net&gt; 02/22/04 08:50PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>Randy, =
Ebay=20
rule of thumb # 2, the one you never see!<BR><BR>IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO =
PLAY -=20
DON'T PAY<BR><BR>(joke) : )<BR>Thanks, Tom<BR>peregrineflier=20
&lt;&gt;&lt;<BR>IMCA #6168<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: Randy =
aka=20
Randy Mils &lt;acculabs_at_hotmail.com&gt;<BR>To:=20
&lt;meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com&gt;<BR>Sent: Sunday, February 22, =
2004=20
7:40 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars=20
Rock<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Ebay rule of thumb #1:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; IF YOU CAN'T =
AFFORD=20
TO PAY - DON'T PLAY.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Randy the Rambler<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;From:=20
"Tom aka James Knudson"<BR>&gt; &gt;To: "MarkF" ,<BR>&gt; &gt;CC:<BR>&gt;=
=20
&gt;Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock<BR>&gt=
;=20
&gt;Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:09:07 -0700<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Hello =
List, I=20
am the high bidder now, God someone please out bid me, I<BR>can't<BR>&gt;=
=20
&gt;afford it!<BR>&gt; &gt;Thanks, Tom<BR>&gt; &gt;peregrineflier=20
&lt;&gt;&lt;<BR>&gt; &gt;IMCA #6168<BR>&gt; &gt;----- Original Message=20
-----<BR>&gt; &gt;From: MarkF<BR>&gt; &gt;To:<BR>&gt; &gt;Cc:<BR>&gt; =
&gt;Sent:=20
Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:57 PM<BR>&gt; &gt;Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]=
=20
Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
You realize too that you can also retract bids for a reason<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; From:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;=20
To:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 4:27 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 44 bids in one hour...not a =
bad=20
start.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Can I bid on my =
own=20
stuff?...they look almost too good to sell.<BR>Maybe<BR>&gt; &gt;they<BR>&g=
t;=20
&gt; &gt; are from out there and were transported down with the that =
new=20
Slag<BR>that<BR>&gt; &gt;was<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; made on Mars?<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; JD<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt; PS=20
Thanx for the push Adam. I've been tempted to do this all week.<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
&gt; &gt; &gt; Everyone should just bid on this auction just enough to=20
be<BR>registered<BR>&gt; &gt;as<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; a<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
bid.&nbsp; If it gets enough bids it will attract attention just<BR>because=
=20
of<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; number of bids.&nbsp; =
I=20
just bid ten times in increments of the minimum<BR>of<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;=20
six<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; cents and Gregory is still high bidder at =
only=20
$1.01&nbsp; !!!!<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
Jim<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ----- =
Original=20
Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; From:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt; To:=20
"Adam Hupe"<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Cc:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
Sent:=20
Sunday, February 22, 2004 3:24 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: =
Re:=20
[meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Adam =
and=20
others,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
It is=20
the same igneous rock he was slicing and calling DAG 476.<BR>It<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;is<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; basalt or gabbro....the green look to =
it=20
maybe olivne but more<BR>likely<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; epidote.&nbsp; =
What=20
was the name of that character that Art has banned<BR>in<BR>&gt; &gt;the<BR=
>&gt;=20
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; past...not Matteo..before him. This is starting to =
have=20
the<BR>feel/look<BR>&gt; &gt;of<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; someone who =
wants to=20
screw with us purposely.&nbsp; Proud Tom????<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; As many of you know I have similar=20=

material...I just put some up<BR>for<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; sale<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
&gt; &gt; today(see below) as a spoof in return to Mr./Ms. Glassface.<BR>&g=
t;=20
&gt;Contribution<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; of<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; payment =
will=20
be to the IMCA and its development...<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; JD<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <A=20
href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=3D2227754521=
">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=3D2227754521</A><B=
R>&gt;=20
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Dear List,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; This Glassface seller on ebay =
is a=20
real clown and a poor con<BR>&gt; &gt;artist.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; He<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; just listed a piece of Martian basalt that he =
claims=20
has<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; preferentially<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
aligned OPX crystals.&nbsp; This is simply amazing considering<BR>there<BR>=
&gt;=20
&gt;are<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; only<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; two<BR>&gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; such stones in the world for a TKW of only 378 grams =
making=20
it<BR>the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; rarest<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
&gt; Martian subclass in existence<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;=20
"Olivine-Orthopyroxene-Phyric-Shergottite".&nbsp; I<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
&gt; &gt; guess if you are going to make something up you may as=20
well<BR>make<BR>&gt; &gt;it<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; as<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
rare<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; as humanly possible and claim =
it came=20
from Rissani, how<BR>&gt; &gt;ridiculous.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; It<BR>&gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
&gt; &gt; is<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; even bargain priced =
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$300.00, what a hero!&nbsp; To see this<BR>fraud,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;=20
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rated idiot has got to go!<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
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&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; All the best,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Adam<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
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