[meteorite-list] SaharaMet : Point of view on NWA meteorites

From: Michel Franco <michel_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun Dec 5 13:41:14 2004
Message-ID: <010901c4dafa$01b5d730$0201a8c0_at_cailloubi12zzr>

Pelisson, or the art of taking sentences out of their contExt to consolidate
their fantasy.

Do stop to anwer them. I vote for Michael's Blood policy.


PELISSONS, I 'VE BLACKHOLED THE TRUTH I HAD IN YOU, NO MORE RADIATION WILL
COME FROM YOU TO ME. GO TO LAYERS? BUT NEVER FORGET THAT YOU HAVE STOLEN
METEORITES FROM ALGERIA, KNOWING THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY,
SHALL I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU TRAVEL YOU DO NOT RESPECT THE LAWS OF THE
HOST COUNTRY ? THAT YOU DO NOT SMUGGLE METEORITES TROUGHT BORDERS. BTW THERE
IS ALSO A LAW IN TUNISIA THAT PROHIBITS THEIR FREE EXPORTATION.

BOTH YOUR DAG AND ACFER CROSSED BORDERS ILLEGALLY.

I PREVIOUSLY RECONGNIZED HAVING DID THAT TOO, AS MANY OF US ON THE LIST.

IF YOU HAVE BALLS DECLARE IT IN AN ANSWER AND LOOK AT YOUR FACE IN A MIRROR
JUST AFTER YOU WILL FEEL REALLY HAPPY, IF YOU KNOW WHAT THIS WORD MEANS.


----- Original Message -----
From: <SaharaTeam_at_aol.com>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:51 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] SaharaMet : Point of view on NWA meteorites


> We have put this web page explaining the situation of NWA meteorites for
> a
> good reason :
> http://www.saharamet.com/meteorite/data/Sahara/Nwa.html
>
> 1) the situation of terrorism is dramatic in Algeria and there is an open
> link with contraband. See these recent posts of Mike on the mailing with
> the
> title :"Re: [meteorite-list] news from Algeria" and "[meteorite-list]
> Algeria" :
>
>> Yep, things are getting a little scary out in Islamland.
>> Why anyone would go to Algeria I dont know. The Army of God terrorist
> group
>> is still hacking people up there on a daily basis.
>
>> Michel, are you suggesting that massacres do not happen in Algeria? Tens
> of
>> thousands are dead over the decade.
>> I can pull up hundreds of articles on the bombings, entire villages
> murdered
>> etc.
>> Mike

JUST MISSES MY ANSWER THAT EXPLAINS WHERE ARE THE TERRORISTS LOCATED IN
ALGERIA; CLEARLY CLOSER FROM YOUR HOME THAN FROM THE STREWN FIELDS;
YES, PELISSONS i HAVE BEEN IN TINDOUF AND IN GARA DJEBILET, CHECK YOUR MAPS
AND SUE ME FOR LIES IF YOUY WANT. TOTALLY LEGALLY. with VISAS AND PERMITS.
I CAN PRETEND KNOWING A BIT THE AREA;

>
> 2) meteorites bought in Morocco are coming from Algeria, Libya and up to
> Egypt for their majority. It's the case of NWA 482 and 2046 of Mike for
> example.
> And for his recent trip, when we see that he has been driven right on the
> Algeria border to find the original seller... for us this seller seems
> coming
> from Algeria

PROVE IT. IT SEEMS TO YOU ...... BUT YOU ARE TOTALLY UNRELIABLE !!!!!

(nomads with their flocks don't live in a minefield... in the
> other case, after one week, there will be no more flock in live).
>
> 3) the potential for meteorite prospecting in Morocco is very limited and
> the border with Algeria is officially closed since 1994.

YOU HAVE PROBABLY INDICATIONS FROM THE ALGERIAN SECRET SERVICES TO SAY WHEN
THE BORDER IS OPENNED OR CLOSED? AT ANY MINUTE.
PLEASE TELL US WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST TIME IN ALGERIA? BEHAVING
LEGALLY I MEAN .

For protecting Morocco
> from army groups coming from Algeria there's a double wall of earth
> created
> by bulldozer and mined : one million mines !!!. It's a military place
> where
> it's forbidden to go. It's what Mike has described in his recent trip
> with the
> title :
> [meteorite-list] Morocco new fall news

DON'T MIX UP THE ALGERIA- MOROCCO BORDER AND THE BERM BETWEEN THE 2 SIDES OF
WESTERN SAHARA;
MIKE IS NOT VERY AWARE OF THE EXACT POLITICAL SITUATION BETWEEN POLISARIO,
MOROCCO AND ALGERIA. WE EXCHANGED EMAILS ABOUT LAST YEAR;
>
>> .....That is
>> when the Moroccans told me that this was a military-only, prohibited
>> zone,
>> and that we were not allowed there! I of course got a little concerned
>> (especially when we saw several mine-fields. We were driving
>> cross-country
>> at night with no lights, only by full moonlight, (not a safe thing in an
> old
>> war zone where mine-fields are still around).
>> The next morning we arrived at the tent of the nomad who found the
>> pallasite. He led us there, over the berm and military fighting
> emplacements
>> to the site, Algeria was only about 2 kilometers away.......Mike"
>
> So read our web page, you will see that it contains lots of things that
> dealers have still noticed. But it's sure that for us meteorites are also
> a world
> patrimony which could be protected under the UNESCO laws :
> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2001/pdf/5150.pdf
>
> Just for comparison : 20 kg of Martian meteorites have been discovered in
> hot desert by systematic prospectors who share full documentation,
> photos, GPS
> localization... and only 3 kg have been discovered by NWA approach.
> Coordinates are important to find paired specimen, a world patrimony is
> lost.


"WHO CARES WHERE METEORITES ARE FOUND ON EARTH, WE SEARCH WHERE THEY COME IN
THE COSMOS" FRANCOIS ROBERT, SEARCHER, MUSEUM NATIONAL D'HISTOIRE NATURELLE
DE PARIS;
"I AM HAPPY WITH ALL THESE METEORITE THAT MANY HUNTERS BRING TO MY DESK IN
MY OFFICE". same author.

 A PATRIMONY IS LOST ????? NO, MORE STUFF ON HIS DESK !!!!!!!
COORDINATES A PATRIMONY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO, COODINATES BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GO AND SEARCH ON THE FOOTSTEPS OF
OTHERS. TO STUDY ELLIPSE. THIS IS POSSIBLY A SCIENTIFIC ALIBI TO KEEP ON
STEALING METEORITES FROM SAHARAN COUNTRIES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE NOT FOUND ANY METEORITE IN MAURITANIA ON YOUR
TRIP TO THE CRATERS? OR YOU EXPORTED THEM WITHOUT AUTHORIZATIONS ? AND YOU
GIVE THEM TO LABS WITHOUT DISCLOSING THE COORDINATES, UNLESS EVERYONE KNOWS
THAT YOU AND SMUGGLERS...AND THE PATRIMONY IS LOST
TOO..................UNLESS YOU HAVE BALLS AND STOP YOUR CRAPS . PLEASE TAKE
THIS LAST SENTENCE OUT OF ITS CONTEXT

OHHH I SEE YOU HAD EXPORTATION PAPERS FROM MAURITANIA

BEST REGARDS TO ALL THE OTHERS.

MICHEL FRANCO

>
> Richard and Roland Pelisson
>
>
>
> --- SaharaTeam_at_aol.com wrote:
>
>> Let us explain the French problem with B. Fectay/C.
>> Bidaut
>>
>> Bruno Fectay and Carine Bidaut have sued us in March
>> 2004 for libel. It is
>> "only" a civil action between B. Fectay/C. Bidaut
>> and us to claim for
>> damages.
>> Now we are also claiming for damages against them.
>>
>> It will take several months to the justice before to
>> return a verdict.
>> As you can imagine, nothing is illegally done in
>> front of the court :
>> private emails are not admissible.
>> And "nobody" can be summoned to appear in a civil
>> action.
>>
>> All the remarks and all the publicity which have
>> been given to this affair
>> are the consequences of this civil action.
>>
>> Regarding our web page on NWA meteorites, the French
>> court decided in our
>> favor:
>> "Il ne peut ?tre contest? que le d?bat sur les lieux
>> de d?couvertes des
>> m?t?orites est l?gitime et pr?sente un int?r?t
>> scientifique. La m?me
>> l?gitimit? doit ?tre reconnue pour les discussions
>> sur le transport et les
>> op?rations commerciales relatives ? ces m?t?orites"


PELISSON TU VEUX QUE JE PUBLIE LE JUGEMENT QUI TE CONDAMNE EN REFERE A
RETIRER TES MENSONGES DE TON SITE WEB MENSONGER

DO YOU WANT ME TO PUBLISH THE JUDGEMENT CONDAMNING YOU TO CLEAR YOUR NASTY
WEB PAGES? THAT'S WINNING A CASE ?




>> We hope that everybody can return to his passion.
>> And we wish that those
>> interested by the subject will wait for the official
>> decision.
>> And if Bruno Fectay has something to express why
>> does he needs to write
>> through N. Classen and not with his own email ?
>>
>>
>> For those who want to know more about us and our
>> work on Saharan
>> strewnfields, you can browse our web pages:
>> http://www.SaharaMet.com

AND CONSTAT THAT THE PELISSONS HAVE STOLEN METEORITES IN ALGERIA AND IN
LIBYA. THAT'S ALSO A PART OF THE JOB

>>
>> And our 2003 expedition on Mauritanian craters:
>>
> http://www.saharamet.com/expedition/2003/craters.html
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Richard and Roland Pelisson
>>
>>
>
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