[meteorite-list] Pellisson, the end of a free meteorite hobby?

From: Tom AKA James Knudson <peregrineflier_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Dec 3 09:44:29 2004
Message-ID: <000d01c4d946$993baea0$2d107918_at_Michelle>

Are they stupid? I think if they succeed and they are the only ones getting
them, their business will go down the tubes fast! I really don't think any
self respecting collector would buy anything from them. I know there are a
few that would, but not enough to keep them in business.

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Norbert Classen" <trifid_at_timewarp.de>
To: "meteorite-list" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Cc: "La Memoire de la Terre" <info_at_meteorite.fr>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:38 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Pellisson, the end of a free meteorite hobby?


> Hi All,
>
> I'm forwarding this message on behalf of Bruno & Carine.
> They are having problems to post to the list, and thus they
> asked me for assistance. Please read below.
>
> BTW, I believe their message to be of major importance to
> us all. We shouldn't allow a few rotten apples to spoil our
> hobby - so please read what Bruno & Carine have to say since
> it affects us all, and a few of us, more directly.
>
> If you want to take action, please contact Bruno & Carine in
> that matter. You may reach them via: info_at_meteorite.fr
>
> Best,
> Norbert
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Dear List Members,
>
> this subject is of high interest as it will affect all of us
> including the scientists. What the Pellissons are doing is just
> unbelievable, they already did contact the French interior
> Ministry as well as the Customs offices in different countries.
> They are linking the meteorite community to terrorism in different
> ways.
>
> They did send to major medias a 64 pages document full of crap
> with parts of YOUR private and public mails to try to establish
> that nobody but themselves have the right to sell meteorites!!
>
> Be aware than in a close future we will all have problems shipping
> or crossing borders with meteorites, thanks to them!
> Just try a Google search for "money for terrorism" and you will get
> straight to their page, listed in first place.... see it here:
>
> http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=%22money+for+terrorism%22&meta=
>
> They are using metanames and cross linking
> with pages about horrible things just to attract interest on them.
>
> You all know that we did bring them to court, they already have been
> sentenced in emergency during the last Tucson show. Now we are driving
> them to serious things, we received their list of pseudo arguments
> from our attorneys.
>
> Here is the list of the people they are involving in front of the Judge
> and the Lyon's Court (the second biggest in France), they are using
> parts of your public and private emails to try to explain why meteorites
> (except of their own) are funding terrorism.
>
> Warning: be aware that these documents are used to prove that either
> you 100% agree with them and support their ideas or that you are involved
> in funding islamist networks......
>
> Privates:
> Mr Bernd Pauli
> Mr Eric Twelker
> Mr Art Jones
> Mr Alain Carion
> Mr Michael Farmer
> Mr Michel Franco
> Mr Aziz Habibi
> Mr Nelson Oakes
> Mr Bob Verish
> Mr Greg and Adam Hupe
> Mr Tracy Latimer
> Mr Luc Labenne
> Mr Dean Bessey
> Mr Matteo Chinellato
>
> Scientists:
> Dr Zenda
> Dr Grossman
> Dr Barrat
> Dr Treiman
> Dr Huss
> Dr Gillet
> Dr Jambon
> Dr Bunch
> the whole Meteoritical Society
> the AMNH of New York
> the MNHN of Paris
>
> And this is only a resume of the thing, it would take days to translate
> the horrors they are building. As an example they are trying to explain
> that the MNHN of Paris did send Michel Franco to build a new network
> for funding Al Queda and they sent that to the French medias...
>
> What will be the next step? Child abuse? Drug traffic? If we don't stop
> them now be sure everybody will get in trouble because of the wonderful
> hobby we share: meteorites.
>
> As your names and private emails have been used by them in a public
> court and have been transmitted to medias and Customs offices
> worldwide, you have the right to ask them a translated copy of the way
> they are using it, you can urge them by law to stop using your names and
> mails too....
>
> We stay available if you need further advices.
>
> Sorry to send such a terrible post, but the community should be aware of
> what is going on.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Bruno & Carine
> La Memoire de la Terre Sarl
> The Earth's Memory LLC
> France
> www.meteorite.fr
> www.fossile.fr
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dean bessey" <deanbessey_at_yahoo.com>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SaharaMet Expedition on meteorite impact
> craters
>
>
> > This is from the pellison guys who says terrorists are
> > being supported by you meteorite buyers.
> > In court in France my own name was used in French
> > court along with my postings to this list as evidence
> > that I stated terrorists were being supported by our
> > meteorite buys.
> > Now I ask every member of this list? Where in the
> > archaives do I provide evidence that Al Quada is
> > supported by our buys? This is pure fabrication and
> > efforts to drive everybody else out of the desert. I
> > havent seen the court document but I suspect they have
> > taken some of the moronic fights about exporting
> > meteorites illegally from morocco that me, farmer, the
> > hupes and others have sadly gotten involved in in our
> > efforts to claim that "My meteorites are better than
> > your meteorites" (Yes, I am as guilty as anybody in
> > this "My meteorites are better than your meteorites"
> > crap even though it is not possible to illegally
> > export meteorites from morocco because there is no law
> > in morocco saying that you cant do it - go to your
> > local moroccan embassy if you want confirmation of
> > what I am saying here).
> > My suspicion is that they took things out of context
> > and misquoted what was said taking things out of
> > context.
> > So lets see, we have a dealer who is known to have
> > deliberately misquoted other people and lied about
> > what was said in postings. We know that the pelissons
> > are people with no scruples and have no hessitation
> > about lying. If they willingly lie in court imagine
> > what they would tell meteorite collectors. Tell me, is
> > this the type of person that you would buy a meteorite
> > from? They lied at least twice. How do you know that
> > they are not lying when they tell you that they never
> > bought a NWA in morocco from aid mohammad and instead
> > of selling it for 20 cents a gram like I would do if I
> > bought a NWA from aid mohammad, they offer it to you
> > at $2 a gram as their own find? They lied once in a
> > very orchastrated court fraud and made up a story that
> > meteorite funds are supporting terrorism.
> > Does known fakers really need three strikes to be out?
> > If you pay more than 15 cents a gram for a pellisson
> > meteorite you are buying something from people with no
> > more trustworthyness than dealing with a lot of the
> > moroccans. The pellisons meteorites have no more known
> > about them than if you buy my 20 cent NWAs. You dont
> > know where they are from.
> > And yes, I really am pissed off because my name was
> > used in french court in a fabricated court case.
> > Sincerely
> > DEAN
> >
> > --- SaharaMet <SaharaTeam_at_aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > A new page on our desert trips:
> > >
> > > - Mauritanian Sahara expedition
> > > - Temimichat and Tenoumer impact craters
> > > - panoramic views of the craters
> > > (4000x650 pixels)
> > > - impactites and shocked granitic rocks
> > > - story of the journey
> > >
> > > Go to:
> > >
> > > http://www.saharamet.com/expedition/2003/crater.html
> > >
> > > Richard & Roland Pelisson
> > > SaharaMet
> > > Sahara expeditions and great meteorite discoveries
> > > http://www.saharamet.com
>
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