[meteorite-list] Cold hunting question

From: joseph_town_at_att.net <joseph_town_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:29:54 2004
Message-ID: <20030913224509.63C32536D2_at_pairlist.net>

The federal court says that anything found on a parkway, the strip of land
between the sidewalk and the curb, the sidewalk itself, the street and any
public property designated as such by the village will be the legal possesion
of the one who has taken it. If the contents of a household are discarded on
the curb as trash, they become public domain. Anyone can help themselves.
That's the law but there is an ordinance specific to Park Forest that denies
this right. As far as I know, noone has ever been to court to defy this
ridiculous law but it is a village ordinance. Mike Farmer displayed a lot of
restraint in that situation. I have no idea what the police were thinking but
it was obviously disgraceful. Bad/dumb cops do things like that everywhere.

Bill Kieskowski


  
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> Marcie and list,Having grown up in South Carolina and now Florida I am just
> familiar with the fact that if you don't have permission, then you better not be
> on someone's property. Even on state lands you had better have a reason for
> snooping around... especially with a metal detector. Either way, being where
> you're not invited arouses a lot of suspicion here which it doesn't seem to
> raise out west. Is the only difference that there is just too much land to
> supervise, or is it understood that if it isn't fenced then you are welcome on
> it? Is hunting meteorites on state/federal land legal in western parks? Because
> it sure isn't here.I am looking forward to when I can visit out west for some
> real "cold hunting" but have never been too clear on how those of you that do it
> regularly handle the property ownership issues.Warren
> IMCA 3602
> From: Marcia Swanson [mailto: MJSOfArc_at_webtv.net]To: joeeval@excite.com,
> meteorite-list_at_meteoritecental.comDate: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:11:22 -0500
> (CDT)Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Cold hunting questionHello Warren and
> List,Warren your question about property locale ownership, brought to mind
> aquestion of my own that I would appreciate an answer to, on or off-list,by
> yourself or other list members.I understand that when hunting on private
> property, you are supposed toget (written?) permission. I know that different
> Countries havedifferent rules on whether or not a meteorite is property of
> finder orconfiscated by government, or percentage of it taken for
> identificationand record and display at museum, ect.My questions are regarding
> meteorites found in USA. What EXACTLY areth e rules to guarentee that if you
> find one, say on public land ( StatePark, lakeshore, river-bed, dry-lake,
> abandoned gravil pit, ect.) youcan claim it without fear of confiscation, by
> State or Localauthorities? I know this was an issue with the F.P. that
> supposedly"bounced" off the public sidewalk before hitting a home and
> wasconfiscated by local authorities ( Sorry to bring that unfortunate issueup),
> and there have been other instances. Is it the amount of money (it's worth) that
> determimes whether or not a counter-claim is laid on itby local, state, or is it
> the classification of the fall or find thatagain,makes it confiscatable? To be
> classed, especially if it weresomething really significant, you do have to say
> where it was foundright ?How does this work? When something is found on private
> property, afterhaving been given permission to look, what is the obligation of
> thecollector in regards to payment to land- owner , should a possiblemeteorite,
> or a meteorite be found, or land owners right tocounterclaim pwnership rights? I
> would truly appreciate guidelineanswers on some of these questions please, or
> reference readingmaterial? Thank-you and Best Regards, Marcie&gt; --- Begin
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> Just wondering who owns these areas you "cold hunters" are searching? Are areas
> like the Gold Basin and Bonneville Salt Flats publicly owned or do you make
> arrangements with individual land owners?
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