[meteorite-list] Cosmos 96/Kecksburg-Venus Question

From: Howard Wu <freewu2000_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:28:34 2004
Message-ID: <20031022174034.63138.qmail_at_web60003.mail.yahoo.com>

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A little off the subject but was up early thinking about this. The Russians did eventually land on Venus and got atmospheric isotope %. Been reading about NWA011 age ~2GY? O isotopes seem wrong but the age would be about right. Why probably ot that one, Venus still has activce volcanos thus basaltic material. Theorectically how much more difficult would it be for a Venusian to find it's way to earth? What would we expect in a Venunsian basalt meteorite or why haven't any been identified?
 
Howard Wu

Francis Graham <francisgraham_at_rocketmail.com> wrote:
>Interestingly, the
>spacecraft in question appears to have been a
>Venera lander (a mission to
>Venus) that failed to leave parking orbit. More
>info, including (highly
>critical) comments if this was the source of the
>Kecksburg bolide, can be
>found at:

Soooo... it now appears possible the USA has a
Venera lander. I wonder where all the stuff (including
the Upper Volta meteorite mentioned in the earlier
NASA memo) is?
For that matter, I wonder where Clarence Caldwell's
airplanes are?
Clarence Caldwell was a aviation experimenter that
made airplanes with round wings in the 1930's. Nothing
dramatic, I am afraid, just standard piper-cub like
airplanes with round wings and propellers. No strange
powers.
Nonetheless, when the UFO controversy broke out, in
the late 1940's, the USAF sent a black bag team and
got his airplanes out of a tobacco curing shed he left
them in years before. This was mistakenly publicized
by the local police chief in local papers near Glen
Burnie, MD.
The airplanes were carted off to--where? What
became of them? They would be good for a local
aviation history museum. But that is off topic, except
by comparison to the Kecksburg "meteorite" case, so I
go no further.
Francis Graham


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<DIV>A little off the subject but was up early thinking about this. The Russians did eventually land on Venus and got atmospheric isotope %.&nbsp; Been reading about NWA011 age ~2GY? O isotopes seem wrong but the age would be about right. Why probably ot that one,&nbsp;Venus still has activce volcanos thus basaltic material.&nbsp; Theorectically how much more difficult would it be for a Venusian to find it's way to earth? What would we expect in a Venunsian basalt&nbsp;meteorite or why haven't any been identified? </DIV>
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<DIV>Howard Wu<BR><BR><B><I>Francis Graham &lt;francisgraham_at_rocketmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">&gt;Interestingly, the<BR>&gt;spacecraft in question appears to have been a <BR>&gt;Venera lander (a mission to<BR>&gt;Venus) that failed to leave parking orbit. More <BR>&gt;info, including (highly<BR>&gt;critical) comments if this was the source of the <BR>&gt;Kecksburg bolide, can be<BR>&gt;found at:<BR><BR>Soooo... it now appears possible the USA has a<BR>Venera lander. I wonder where all the stuff (including<BR>the Upper Volta meteorite mentioned in the earlier<BR>NASA memo) is?<BR>For that matter, I wonder where Clarence Caldwell's<BR>airplanes are?<BR>Clarence Caldwell was a aviation experimenter that<BR>made airplanes with round wings in the 1930's. Nothing<BR>dramatic, I am afraid, just standard piper-cub like<BR>airplanes with round wings and propellers. No strange<BR>powers.<BR>Nonetheless, when the UFO controversy broke out, in<BR>the late 1940's, the USAF sent a black bag
 team and<BR>got his airplanes out of a tobacco curing shed he left<BR>them in years before. This was mistakenly publicized<BR>by the local police chief in local papers near Glen<BR>Burnie, MD.<BR>The airplanes were carted off to--where? What<BR>became of them? They would be good for a local<BR>aviation history museum. But that is off topic, except<BR>by comparison to the Kecksburg "meteorite" case, so I<BR>go no further.<BR>Francis Graham<BR><BR><BR>__________________________________<BR>Do you Yahoo!?<BR>The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search<BR>http://shopping.yahoo.com<BR><BR>______________________________________________<BR>Meteorite-list mailing list<BR>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com<BR>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list</BLOCKQUOTE><p><hr size=1><font face="Arial" size="2">Want to chat instantly with your online friends? <a href="http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/"><b>Get the FREE Yahoo!
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