[meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] BS AD: 20% offeverything on ...

From: Roman Nakonechny <uraninut239__at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:28:23 2004
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Because, just like unreputable mall retailers there are many unreputable
"wannabe" meteorite dealers, unfortunately.


>From: "Randy Mils" <acculabs_at_hotmail.com>
>To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] BS AD: 20%
>offeverything on ...
>Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:45:19 -0700
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<P>Here is an idea..........</P>
<P>Reputable retailers (like at the mall) will give you a reduction in price if&nbsp;an item you buy goes on sale within a reasonable amount of time.&nbsp; Why wouldn't this work for meteorite dealers?</P>
<P>Example........&nbsp; If I sell XXX meteorite this week for $100- per gram and then put it on sale next week for $50- per gram, I give a partial refund to everyone who bought it from me the first week.</P>
<P>Randy<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Michael L Blood <MLBLOOD_at_COX.NET>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: Michael Cottingham <MIKEWREN_at_GILANET.COM>, <SHARKKB8@AOL.COM>,<METEORITECOLLECTORS@YAHOOGROUPS.COM>,M come Meteorite Meteorites <MCOMEMETEORITE2000@YAHOO.IT>,<METEORITE-LIST@METEORITECENTRAL.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] BS AD: 20% offeverything on ...
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:12:05 -0700
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Michael,
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Why don't I "PRAISE some of the CHEAPEST prices around?"
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Read my article this month in METEORITE TIMES. If you read that
<DIV></DIV>&gt;and STILL can't figure out why I don't "PRAISE some of the CHEAPEST
<DIV></DIV>&gt;prices around?" Let me make it clear right here:
<DIV></DIV>&gt; When you offer merchandise for a given price, then offer the
<DIV></DIV>&gt;same material later for less - then, if you don't sell all of it at that
<DIV></DIV>&gt;price, you offer it later for even less - over and over and over, as
<DIV></DIV>&gt;you do, Michael, you create several effects that go far beyond your
<DIV></DIV>&gt;personal reality.
<DIV></DIV>&gt; For one thing, you give buyers the message they should never buy
<DIV></DIV>&gt;now, wait, and the price will go down (however, this only badly hurts
<DIV></DIV>&gt;all dealers, not necessarily the collectors.). However, you ALSO burn
<DIV></DIV>&gt;ALL your own customers who paid more for this material when you
<DIV></DIV>&gt;originally offered it.
<DIV></DIV>&gt; I buy something from you for $3.50/g and 2 weeks later you drop
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the price to $1.75/g - I feel RIPPED OFF. (perhaps you STILL don't get
<DIV></DIV>&gt;this, despite doing this to all of us who invested heavily in Wagon
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wheel - which you, then proceeded to GIVE AWAY. Those of us in for
<DIV></DIV>&gt;$3.50 a gram felt really burned and I, for one, told you that strait to
<DIV></DIV>&gt;your face and I KNOW several others who did as well.) ALSO, when
<DIV></DIV>&gt;you do this, there is NO STABILITY in the meteorite market.
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Low prices, I am all for it. My collection has never been "gaining
<DIV></DIV>&gt;weight" so fast. I can make just as much money dealing low priced
<DIV></DIV>&gt;material as high priced material. No problem. It is the instability
<DIV></DIV>&gt;that TOTALLY destabilizes everything
<DIV></DIV>&gt; It really doesn't matter (on a market level) whether meteorites
<DIV></DIV>&gt;are "cheap" or "expensive" - of course, as a collector, I prefer them
<DIV></DIV>&gt;cheap - but as a dealer, I don't care one way or the other. WHAT I DO
<DIV></DIV>&gt;CARE ABOUT IS STABILITY. Without it, neither collectors OR dealers
<DIV></DIV>&gt;can conduct business in a sane manor.
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Your CONSTANT "fire sales" followed by even greater fire sales
<DIV></DIV>&gt;undermine that stability entirely. No one can reckon the "value"
<DIV></DIV>&gt;of material, because the prices are running all over the board. But
<DIV></DIV>&gt;you get your cash in hand NOW and that is all you care about.
<DIV></DIV>&gt; So, Michael, THAT is why I don't "praise some of the cheapest
<DIV></DIV>&gt;prices around." Get it? Or, is it STILL too subtle for you?
<DIV></DIV>&gt; I resent it as a collector and I resent it as a dealer.
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Sincerely, Michael Blood
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;on 10/8/03 12:27 AM, Michael Cottingham at mikewren_at_gilanet.com wrote:
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Hello,
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Maybe I just really don't want to sell that piece that bad!!!
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Hey ...why don't you look at the other pieces and PRAISE some of the
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; CHEAPEST prices around!
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Really folks ...don't look for ghosts on this one. Either
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; buy the pieces or don't. It is all up front and it is a public sale.
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Michael
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Michael Cottingham
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <MCOMEMETEORITE2000_at_YAHOO.IT>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; To: <SHARKKB8_at_AOL.COM>; <METEORITECOLLECTORS@YAHOOGROUPS.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:18 AM
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] BS AD: 20% off
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; everything on ...
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; it resolves with these useless sentences
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; Matteo
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; --- Michael Cottingham <MIKEWREN_at_GILANET.COM>wrote:
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; It is something else....
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Michael
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; ----- Original Message -----
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; From: Sharkkb8_at_aol.com
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; To: mikewren_at_gilanet.com ;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it ;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:05 AM
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re:
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; [MeteoriteCollectors] BS AD: 20% off everything on
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; ...
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; mikewren_at_gilanet.com writes:
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Matteo and Michael Blood should go back to
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; bed...you nit wits!
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; C'mon Michael (C.) - that doesn't really address
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Michael (B.)'s inquiry about your "discount"
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; pricing. If it's just a (moderately-insulting)
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; marketing ploy to get the same net amount of money
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; for a rock, just say so. If it's something else,
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; just say so. I'm speaking as a past
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; customer....could you please answer the question?
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Gregory
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;
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