[meteorite-list] Fw: Fuel dumping aircraft & Wales

From: Charles R. Viau <cviau_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:28:23 2004
Message-ID: <000001c38d30$23c203d0$1800a8c0_at_chupa>

At an airshow, maybe. Never over populated areas unless there is an
emergency. Also, a fuel dump takes time, you just don't just vent the
fuel out in a burst. Another think wrong with this scenario is that if
ignited, the burning fuel rises like a plume.

CharlyV

-----Original Message-----
From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Marco
Langbroek
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 5:59 AM
To: meteorite list
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Fuel dumping aircraft & Wales

This (below forward) comes through Ed Majden from the meteorobs mailing
list. It confirms that igniting fuel trails by jet fighters is something
which is done on occasion.

With Robs work on the trail orientations where his results show that it
is
compatable with a horizontal trail and my arguments as pointed out
earlier
this simply shows that a meteor is not the only option, and certainly
not a
likely option indeed as much can be brought in against it, while little
or
next to nothing can be brought in against the contrail hypothesis. The
fact
that the trail is dark for the large part rules out a high altitude
phenomena - and Rob now showed it might very well be horizontal too. So:
low
altitude horizontal scores a 1, high altitude angled scores a nil.

- Marco

PS: Rob, apparently messages send by me directly to you mail address do
not
come through. Thanks for pointing out my thought mistake in the ruler
experiment, I had noted it myself too after given it some thought over
again.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Majden" <epmajden_at_shaw.ca>
To: "meteorobs" <meteorobs_at_atmob.org>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 6:50 PM
Subject: (meteorobs) Fw: Fuel dumping!


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Willshaw Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military
> Subject: Re: Fuel dumping!
>
>
> >
> > "Ed Majden" wrote in message
>
> > > Some of you are jet jocks or ex-jet jocks. What can you tell
me
> about
> > > the practice of dumping fuel from a jet and the igniting this
dumped
> fuel
> > by
> > > cutting in your afterburners? Wouldn't this be a very risky
practice?
> If
> > > not, why would this be done? On another newsgroup, this is being
used
> to
> > > explain a photograph taken by a young fellow in the UK. The
photograph
> > was
> > > first explained to be the entry of a meteorite in the upper
atmosphere
> but
> > > now this is not supported. Some are using this fuel dump ignition
> theory
> > to
> > > explain what was photographed. Your comments on this practice, if
it
> > > exists, would be appreciated.
> > > Ed
> > >
> >
> > The RAAF F-111's do this pretty regularly , I seem to recall one
> > did it over Sydney during the recent Olympics, that footage was
> > seen around the world.
> >
> > As for why, well its pretty dammed spectacular is the main reason :)
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >



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