[meteorite-list] Wales images, trail orientations
From: Matson, Robert <ROBERT.D.MATSON_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:28:22 2004 Message-ID: <AF564D2B9D91D411B9FE00508BF1C86901B4EDD3_at_US-Torrance.mail.saic.com> Hi All, Okay, I think I can finally close the book on this Wales event, at least to my satisfaction. I've got a solution (actually a family of solutions) that within the uncertainties of the camera pointing knowledge/orientation and the observer locations points to an aircraft contrail at an altitude of < 30,000 feet traveling on a heading of azimuth 261 passing about 5.3 km south of Porthcawl. This produces an apparent trajectory that is slightly steeper as seen from Porthcawl than Pencoed. I actually think the Porthcawl image was taken later than the reported 19:13 BST. At this time, the sun was less than one degree below the horizon, and the sky is just too dark for this to be true. I wouldn't be surprised if the picture was taken closer to 19:30. If the picture was truly taken at 19:13, much more of the track would have been sunlit. In response to my last message, Marco asked: > ... I do not quite follow your argument about the angles > (which might however be my mind putting me off only). To me, > it is clear that with a trail to the west of Porthcawl, > Pencoed which is even more to the east should see it at > a flatter angle. Hold a ruler next to the left of your head > to mimic the trail as seen in the Porthcawl image. Then move > your head to the right while keep looking at the ruler. There's the flaw with your analogy -- moving your head to the right means moving your location north-northwest since you are facing west-southwest. The Pencoed location is actually almost directly behind you. A better method is to draw two dots on a map representing the two locations, and a line under both of them at various tilts. Keep in mind, the line cannot be east- west -- it must tilt somewhat south of west. What you'll discover is that if the tilt is more than 15 degrees (azimuth 255), the track must come closer to Pencoed than Porthcawl, and we know this isn't the case because the trajectory is flatter as seen from Pencoed. Cheers, Rob Received on Sun 05 Oct 2003 05:28:44 PM PDT |
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