[meteorite-list] Misleading Images, a Real Problem

From: Tom aka James Knudson <knudson911_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:27:51 2004
Message-ID: <012c01c3aec0$f14216e0$2cc743d8_at_malcolm>

Adam, I understand what your saying. I have brightened and added contrast to
a few of my pics before, only because I have a hard time getting it right
with the camera. I have bought meteorites that looked a lot better in the
pics, and it is disappointing. Luckily, I have bought some that were so much
better than the pictures!
 Now to the real point, your pics are among the best pictures out there
every time! Maybe you could share you techniques with us and the world would
be a better place for your efforts! : )
Thanks, Tom
Peregrineflier <><
Yea, that's right,
The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
To: Tom aka James Knudson <knudson911_at_frontiernet.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:36 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Misleading Images, a Real Problem


> Dear Tom and List,
>
> It is interesting to see how many List members showed an interest in the
new
> chondrite. Many asked if it was paired with other stones currently on the
> market. To answer truthfully, we do not know. As we have said many
times,
> only a good laboratory can make this distinction. Images of cut surfaces
in
> reflected light are a poor way to determine pairings.
>
> As far as picture taking goes, there is a real problem out there. The
> problem is that a lot of images seen on ebay and on dealer's websites have
> been manipulated to enhance the appearance. Some have been colored to
make
> them look fantastic. The sharpen tool has been applied to others making
> chondrules look better than in real life. Others add contrast to bring
out
> barely visible features. Some are obvious because they use a coin in the
> picture to show off the size of the specimen. Sometimes you can see that
> the colors of the coin are not correct giving a clue that you are being
> mislead. Others mask out the background and make the specimen look as if
it
> is floating in the darkness of space. This is ok if the image of the
actual
> meteorite has not been altered but this is usually not the case as can be
> seen by the sparkling multi-rainbow colored chondrules, how stupid do
these
> dealers think the buyers really are?
>
> We feel manipulating images in this way is very misleading and dishonest.
> Have a look for yourselves and you will know who the culprits are, it is
> fairly obvious. On the flip side, there are some excellent images out
there
> that are true to life. Hint, the person is sometimes seen holding the
> specimen with their fingers. If the skin color of his/her fingers does
not
> vary from image to image you can be fairly sure the picture of the
meteorite
> has not been manipulated.
>
> We are only discussing images in reflected light of specimens for sale not
> SEM or thin-section images.
>
> How many of you have received specimens that have little resemblance to
the
> image you used to make a purchasing decision?
>
> All the best,
>
> Adam and Greg Hupe
> The Hupe Collection
> IMCA 2185
>
>
>
>
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <knudson911_at_frontiernet.net>
> To: "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>;
> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 7:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Cool Meteorite
>
>
> > Hello Adam, Is this the same meteorite or paired with Rob Elliott's new
> > meteorite? Sure looks similar?
> > www.meteorites.uk.com
> >
> > Thanks, Tom
> > Peregrineflier <><
> > Yea, that's right,
> > The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:59 PM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Cool Meteorite
> >
> >
> > > Dear List Members,
> > >
> > > A few have already asked what other stone we will be releasing later
> this
> > > week. Here is a sneak preview:
> > >
> > > http://www.lunarrock.com/11-20/dsc00001.jpg
> > >
> > > This is a very beautiful chondrite with virtually no matrix or metal.
> It
> > > has a dark filling between the multiple colored chondrules which are
> wall
> > to
> > > wall. We will be starting a out few complete slices at 99 cents and
let
> > the
> > > market determine the value so keep an eye out later in the week.
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > >
> > > Adam and Greg Hupe
> > > The Hupe Collection
> > > IMCA 2185
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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