[meteorite-list] Failure to communicate...

From: Marcia Swanson <MJSOfArc_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:27:50 2004
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Dear Steve, Matteo and List,
Thinkng about Steve's very revelant point, I wrote to Matteo with, what
I thought was the correct translation of what he meant to say. His
answer, with his permission for me to share the translation to everyones
understanding is attached. Now I hope we have an understanding. Please
read Matteo's reply next, then follow down to my translated version.
Very Best Regards to All, Marcie


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From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Failure to communicate...
To: Marcia Swanson <MJSOfArc_at_webtv.net>
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Hello

yes +/- is this I want write.....thanks for the
translation.
Regards

Matteo

--- Marcia Swanson <MJSOfArc_at_webtv.net> wrote:
> Dear Matteo,
> Is this what you meant to say?
> That if YOU had posted a site that made fun of some
> of the others, would
> they stil think it is funny, and not be mad with
> YOU? You feel that is
> doubtful. It's hard to defend yourself when the
> person who wrote this,
> who is an idiot in your eyes. Invisable like a
> fairy, because whoever
> did it did not come forward, so you could confront
> this person yourself
> to find out why they did this? And you feel like,
> because others laugh
> at this childish joke, that you are being singled
> out and slandered
> unfairly by the others also? You feel your name and
> reputation ihas been
> damaged, and you wish to defend it, but the
> communication problem
> between us, makes it hard for you to do this without
> being misunderstood
> also? So you contacted the provider of this persons
> website and left it
> up to them to decide if the site should be closed?
> Slander, is not
> legal. So the site was closed, because the
> internet-provider does not
> want to be legally responsible for what Proud Tom
> says?
>
> Matteo, is this what you meant to say? I do not know
> Italian, but tried
> to translate what you wrote, and I think this is
> what you wish them to
> know? Please write to me back, so I can tell them of
> this, if it is
> true. Then they will understand. Regards, Marcie
>
>

> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822
> From: M come Meteorite Meteorites
> <mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Failure to
> communicate...
> To: Steve Schoner <steve_schoner_at_yahoo.com>,
> meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:18:58 -0800 (PST)
>
> Hello Steve
>
> I have search and tested all internet translators
> present but all have problems to translate italian
> to
> english. Probably is good I put the text in italian
> and after who want translate this, if I have close
> to
> put emails for this argoument....is others continue
> to
> put emails on this.
> Regards
>
> Matteo
>
> --- Steve Schoner <steve_schoner_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Matteo, list and all...
> >
> > What I think we have here is a profound lack of
> > communication.
> >
> > I tried "Babblefish" on Matteo's Italian post and
> it
> > came out in... well exactly as Matteo originally
> > posted in English. "Fairies" and "Struck ones"
> > included.
> >
> > These translation programs do not do very well
> > translating Italian into English. And that does
> not
> > even address dialects, for there are differences
> > between nnorthern and southern IItalian
> >
> > My only suggestion is for Matteo to be very simple
> > in
> > his words. Use 1st and 2nd grade words in simple
> > sentences, no slang or phrases such as those that
> > would create "Fairies" or "Struck ones" in the
> > translation.
> >
> > (if I became a "struck one" by a meteorite, I
> would
> > not mind)
> >
> > Just trying to be constructive here, for a lot of
> > what
> > I have seen this "idiocy" thread is probably due
> to
> > a
> > lack of communication.
> >
> > Steve Schoner/ams
> >
> >
> >
> >
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