[meteorite-list] Chixculub material testing

From: Stephen Edward Smith <vickie-steve-smith_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:27:48 2004
Message-ID: <3FB59D0F.C7114FE0_at_erols.com>

Hey Guys,
    I care. They ripped me off for a tidy sum. I'm bringing my slice to
Tucson. Steve Smith

Adam Hupe wrote:

> Hello again Mike and List,
>
> What I should have said about Shirokovsky is that for some reason the
> Meteoritical Society did not publish the final statement regarding these man
> made stones. They did not say that it is was a result of an unsuccessful
> melting in a furnace, in which the olivine was used as a refractory
> material. Shirokovsky is still represented as being natural and people for
> some reason are still buying it. At the $2.00 a gram selling price it would
> be worth producing this material at about 10 cents a pound since nobody
> seems to care it is man made.
>
> All the best,
>
> Adam
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> To: "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chixculub material testing
>
> > Adam, I have no argument about that, but this guy is a fraud, plain and
> > simple, he writes basically that "I went on vacation to Cancun, realized
> > that the Chixculub crater is there, found some metal pieces and am now
> > selling the rarest meteorite out there". Anyone who believes that and buys
> > it deserves to lose their money, and further more, can email me, and ill
> > sell them some great stuff.
> > Shirokovsky was not jumping the gun, they had scientific paperwork from
> > Verndasky institute (turned out to be faked). That is the Russian
> equivalent
> > of the Smithsonian. So when presented with the paperwork, they were able
> to
> > dupe a hell of a lot of people.
> > Mike Farmer
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> > To: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> > Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chixculub material testing
> >
> >
> > > Hi Mike and List,
> > >
> > > I agree that a lot of these types of things are fraud. In no way did we
> > > ever consider it was from the actual impact event 65 million years ago.
> > > Since these particles are magnetic, pass the nickel test and people only
> > > have two weeks to get a refund if they do not prove out we thought they
> > > deserved testing. If nothing else, this will demonstrate the importance
> > of
> > > testing before releasing any material assumed to be new. Maybe some
> > > valuable lessons will be learned about jumping the gun or maybe not as
> > > Shirokovsky proved.
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> > > To: "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>;
> > > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:47 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chixculub material testing
> > >
> > >
> > > > Why are you wasting your time on an obvious fraud? It is impossible
> that
> > > > metalic material would survive millions of years, end of story.
> > > > Mike Farmer
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> > > > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 1:19 PM
> > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Chixculub material testing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Dear List Members,
> > > > >
> > > > > We received some samples of the Chixculub material that is being
> > > marketed
> > > > on
> > > > > eBay as being meteoritic. We submitted them to the University of
> > > > Washington
> > > > > for testing. In order to have this material tested in a timely
> matter
> > > we
> > > > > are personally picking up the expenses for the thin-section
> > preparation,
> > > > > microprobe lab testing and official study next Wednesday. We will
> let
> > > > > everybody know the definitive results late Wednesday evening.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is our personal opinion that material should never be sold if
> there
> > > is
> > > > > any question about it being from an authentic meteorite and
> collectors
> > > > > willing to bid on such material should expect to take a loss.
> > > > >
> > > > > All the best,
> > > > >
> > > > > Adam and Greg Hupe
> > > > > The Hupe Collection
> > > > > IMCA 2185
> > > > >
> > > > >
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