[meteorite-list] Chixculub material testing

From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:27:48 2004
Message-ID: <038801c3aaf8$48481240$d2dbe60c_at_attbi.com>

Hello again Mike and List,

What I should have said about Shirokovsky is that for some reason the
Meteoritical Society did not publish the final statement regarding these man
made stones. They did not say that it is was a result of an unsuccessful
melting in a furnace, in which the olivine was used as a refractory
material. Shirokovsky is still represented as being natural and people for
some reason are still buying it. At the $2.00 a gram selling price it would
be worth producing this material at about 10 cents a pound since nobody
seems to care it is man made.

All the best,

Adam


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
To: "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chixculub material testing


> Adam, I have no argument about that, but this guy is a fraud, plain and
> simple, he writes basically that "I went on vacation to Cancun, realized
> that the Chixculub crater is there, found some metal pieces and am now
> selling the rarest meteorite out there". Anyone who believes that and buys
> it deserves to lose their money, and further more, can email me, and ill
> sell them some great stuff.
> Shirokovsky was not jumping the gun, they had scientific paperwork from
> Verndasky institute (turned out to be faked). That is the Russian
equivalent
> of the Smithsonian. So when presented with the paperwork, they were able
to
> dupe a hell of a lot of people.
> Mike Farmer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> To: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chixculub material testing
>
>
> > Hi Mike and List,
> >
> > I agree that a lot of these types of things are fraud. In no way did we
> > ever consider it was from the actual impact event 65 million years ago.
> > Since these particles are magnetic, pass the nickel test and people only
> > have two weeks to get a refund if they do not prove out we thought they
> > deserved testing. If nothing else, this will demonstrate the importance
> of
> > testing before releasing any material assumed to be new. Maybe some
> > valuable lessons will be learned about jumping the gun or maybe not as
> > Shirokovsky proved.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> > To: "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>;
> > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chixculub material testing
> >
> >
> > > Why are you wasting your time on an obvious fraud? It is impossible
that
> > > metalic material would survive millions of years, end of story.
> > > Mike Farmer
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> > > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 1:19 PM
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Chixculub material testing
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear List Members,
> > > >
> > > > We received some samples of the Chixculub material that is being
> > marketed
> > > on
> > > > eBay as being meteoritic. We submitted them to the University of
> > > Washington
> > > > for testing. In order to have this material tested in a timely
matter
> > we
> > > > are personally picking up the expenses for the thin-section
> preparation,
> > > > microprobe lab testing and official study next Wednesday. We will
let
> > > > everybody know the definitive results late Wednesday evening.
> > > >
> > > > It is our personal opinion that material should never be sold if
there
> > is
> > > > any question about it being from an authentic meteorite and
collectors
> > > > willing to bid on such material should expect to take a loss.
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > > Adam and Greg Hupe
> > > > The Hupe Collection
> > > > IMCA 2185
> > > >
> > > >
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