[meteorite-list] Ownership Claimed for Asteroid 433 Eros
From: mark ford <markf_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:27:46 2004 Message-ID: <6CE3EEEFE92F4B4085B0E086B2941B310143BF_at_s-southern01.s-southern.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A76A.F05F50BA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff =20 Exactly! How can a US court even have Jurisdiction over another non-US country/land? (Especially an Asteroid). - simply absurd! =20 =20 On the same theme I wonder if the laws of Salvage apply in space? If you were to collect a derelict satellite and bring it back would you then be able to claim ownership?? =20 What about if a spacecraft lands in your garden? =20 Mark F. =20 -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Kuyken [mailto:jeff_at_meteoritesaustralia.com]=20 Sent: 10 November 2003 06:30 To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ownership Claimed for Asteroid 433 Eros =20 I just want to know how any individual court can get off on thinking they can even make a judgment on something so big outside their country; let alone the PLANET!!! =20 Jeff =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sharkkb8_at_aol.com=20 To: francisgraham_at_rocketmail.com ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ownership Claimed for Asteroid 433 Eros =20 francisgraham_at_rocketmail.com writes: McD refused to negotiate with the lady that won that lawsuit, even early on, when her lawyer asked for little.=20 No doubt McDonald's made the same "mistake" that the rest of humanity did - believing that our legal system and litigious society could not possibly be so far out of whack as to take something like that seriously. =20 =20 Take a look at the proliferation of even-MORE-bizarre lawsuits, if proof is needed how far the pendulum has swung......and they all owe a debt of gratitude to the success the McDonald's suit had, making such astions mainstream rather than fringe. =20 Oh, by the way - "meteorite". ;-) =20 Gregory=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A76A.F05F50BA Content-Type: text/html; 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How can a US court even = have Jurisdiction over another non-US country/land? <span class=3DGramE>(Especially an = Asteroid).</span> <span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>– <span = class=3DGramE>simply</span> absurd!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On the same theme I wonder if the = laws of Salvage apply in space? If you were to collect a derelict satellite and = bring it back would you then be able to claim = ownership??<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What about if a spacecraft lands in = your garden?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mark = F.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original = Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Jeff Kuyken [mailto:jeff_at_meteoritesaustralia.com] <br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 10 November 2003 = 06:30<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Meteorite List<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: = [meteorite-list] Ownership Claimed for Asteroid 433 Eros</span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>I just want to know how any = individual court can get off on thinking they can even make a judgment on something = so big</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana; mso-ascii-font-family:"Times New = Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font size=3D2><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-hansi-font-family:Verdana;mso-bidi-font-fam= ily: Arial'>outside their country; let alone the = PLANET!!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p= > </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DVerdana><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'= >Jeff</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p= > </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo= nt></p> </div> <blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black = 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'= > <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message = ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div style=3D'font-color:black'> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight: bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:Sharkkb8_at_aol.com" title=3D"Sharkkb8_at_aol.com">Sharkkb8@aol.com</a> = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span><= /font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:francisgraham_at_rocketmail.com" = title=3D"francisgraham_at_rocketmail.com">francisgraham@rocketmail.com</a> ; <a href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com" title=3D"meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteoritecen= tral.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span= ></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Monday, November 10, 2003 7:46 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</s= pan></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [meteorite-list] Ownership Claimed for Asteroid 433 = Eros<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= nt></p> </div> <div> <div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href=3D"mailto:francisgraham_at_rocketmail.com">francisgraham@rocketmail.com= </a> writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue = 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> McD refused to = negotiate with the lady that<br> won that lawsuit, even early on, when her lawyer asked<br> for little. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </blockquote> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>No doubt McDonald's = made the same "mistake" that the rest of humanity did - = believing that our legal system and litigious society could not = <em><i><font face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>possibly = </span></font></i></em>be so far out of whack as to take something like that seriously. = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo= nt></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Take a look at the = proliferation of even-MORE-bizarre lawsuits, if proof is needed how far the pendulum has swung......and they all owe a debt of gratitude to the success the McDonald's suit had, making such astions mainstream rather than = fringe.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo= nt></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Oh, by the way = - "meteorite". = ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 = face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo= nt></p> </div> <div> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dred face=3D"Comic Sans MS" PTSIZE=3D10 FAMILY=3DSANSSERIF><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Comic Sans = MS";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:red'>Gregory </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p= > </div> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html> =00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A76A.F05F50BA-- Received on Mon 10 Nov 2003 04:13:43 AM PST |
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