[meteorite-list] Ownership Claimed for Asteroid 433 Eros

From: mark ford <markf_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:27:46 2004
Message-ID: <6CE3EEEFE92F4B4085B0E086B2941B310143BF_at_s-southern01.s-southern.com>

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Jeff
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Exactly! How can a US court even have Jurisdiction over another non-US
country/land? (Especially an Asteroid). - simply absurd!
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On the same theme I wonder if the laws of Salvage apply in space? If you
were to collect a derelict satellite and bring it back would you then be
able to claim ownership??
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What about if a spacecraft lands in your garden?
=20
Mark F.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Kuyken [mailto:jeff_at_meteoritesaustralia.com]=20
Sent: 10 November 2003 06:30
To: Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ownership Claimed for Asteroid 433 Eros
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I just want to know how any individual court can get off on thinking
they can even make a judgment on something so big outside their country;
let alone the PLANET!!!
=20
Jeff
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        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Sharkkb8_at_aol.com=20
        To: francisgraham_at_rocketmail.com ;
meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
        Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:46 AM
        Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ownership Claimed for Asteroid 433
Eros
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         francisgraham_at_rocketmail.com writes:
                 McD refused to negotiate with the lady that
                won that lawsuit, even early on, when her lawyer asked
                for little.=20
        No doubt McDonald's made the same "mistake" that the rest of
humanity did - believing that our legal system and litigious society
could not possibly be so far out of whack as to take something like that
seriously. =20
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        Take a look at the proliferation of even-MORE-bizarre lawsuits,
if proof is needed how far the pendulum has swung......and they all owe
a debt of gratitude to the success the McDonald's suit had, making such
astions mainstream rather than fringe.
        =20
        Oh, by the way - "meteorite". ;-)
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        Gregory=20

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Exactly! How can a US court even =
have Jurisdiction
over another non-US country/land? <span class=3DGramE>(Especially an =
Asteroid).</span>
<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span>&#8211; <span =
class=3DGramE>simply</span>
absurd!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On the same theme I wonder if the =
laws of
Salvage apply in space? If you were to collect a derelict satellite and =
bring
it back would you then be able to claim =
ownership??<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What about if a spacecraft lands in =
your
garden?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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F.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Jeff Kuyken
[mailto:jeff_at_meteoritesaustralia.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 10 November 2003 =
06:30<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Meteorite List<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: =
[meteorite-list]
Ownership Claimed for Asteroid 433 Eros</span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-hansi-font-family:
Verdana;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>I just want to know how any =
individual
court can get off on thinking they can even make a judgment on something =
so big</span></font><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-hansi-font-family:Verdana;mso-bidi-font-fam=
ily:
Arial'>outside their country; let alone the =
PLANET!!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
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style=3D'font-size:
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href=3D"mailto:francisgraham_at_rocketmail.com" =
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; <a href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"
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November 10, 2003 7:46 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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pan></font></b><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[meteorite-list] Ownership Claimed for Asteroid 433 =
Eros<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;<a
href=3D"mailto:francisgraham_at_rocketmail.com">francisgraham@rocketmail.com=
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writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;McD refused to =
negotiate with
the lady that<br>
won that lawsuit, even early on, when her lawyer asked<br>
for little. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>No doubt&nbsp;McDonald's =
made the
same &quot;mistake&quot; that the rest of humanity did&nbsp; -&nbsp; =
believing
that&nbsp;our legal system&nbsp;and litigious society could not =
<em><i><font
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-family:Arial'>possibly =
</span></font></i></em>be&nbsp;so
far out of whack as to take something like that seriously.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Take a look at the =
proliferation of
even-MORE-bizarre lawsuits, if proof is needed how far the pendulum has
swung......and they all&nbsp;owe a debt of gratitude to the success the
McDonald's suit had, making such astions mainstream rather than =
fringe.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Oh, by the way&nbsp; =
-&nbsp;
&quot;meteorite&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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