[meteorite-list] shirokovsky mixing
From: Pekka Savolainen <pekka.savolainen_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:46 2004 Message-ID: <3ED68685.4030309_at_dlc.fi> --------------090605090207090707000509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, Harlan and the list, The first question, I donīt know, but do know, the first man-made diamonds were russian origin. The second question, the etche pattern doesnīt show, if the FeNi has cooled faster than 1 degree Celsius in a mA or so, itīs impossible to create those circumstanses on the earth. Anyway, according the description, Shirokovsky metal contains 20 - 47 wt% Ni, and this is too much for the etche pattern, like in Ataxites. By the way, please, have a look on the site; http://www.pallasite.ru/ Nice photogallery, but not a piece of a meteorite in it. Well, if I had 150 kg:s, I sure would add some pics... Also, I donīt know, if the russian metal-detectors are water-proof, but the model in the picture looks to me more wise to use on the ground than in the under-water search...;- Also an open question to me is, why they didnīt use a magnetometer in the serach... best rgds, pekka harlan trammell wrote: > in the manufacture of steel, siliceous minerals float on the molten > iron and are not mixed in because of the iron's greater density. even > in a zero -gravity situation, the density differences would push the > lighter materials to the surface or outside of the molten iron body > UNLESS there was extreme pressure and current such as found in the > mantles of planets. in the shirokovsky scheme, how would the olivene > be thoroughly mixed? also, would an etche pattern show up even if the > "iron matrix" in a fake was made from actual meteorite like gibeon , > sikhote shrapnel etc.? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 > <http://g.msn.com/8HMHENUS/2731??PS=> and get 2 months > FREE*______________________________________________ Meteorite-list > mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: eurocoin_at_smartgroups.com --------------090605090207090707000509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> </head> <body> <br> Hello, Harlan and the list,<br> <br> <br> The first question, I don´t know, but do know, the first man-made<br> diamonds were russian origin.<br> <br> The second question, the etche pattern doesn´t show, if the FeNi <br> has cooled faster than 1 degree Celsius in a mA or so, it´s impossible<br> to create those circumstanses on the earth.<br> Anyway, according the description, Shirokovsky metal contains 20 -<br> 47 wt% Ni, and this is too much for the etche pattern, like in Ataxites.<br> <br> By the way, please, have a look on the site;<br> <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.pallasite.ru/">http://www.pallasite.ru/</a><br> <br> Nice photogallery, but not a piece of a meteorite in it. Well, if I had<br> 150 kg:s, I sure would add some pics... Also, I don´t know, if the<br> russian metal-detectors are water-proof, but the model in the picture<br> looks to me more wise to use on the ground than in the under-water <br> search...;-<br> <br> Also an open question to me is, why they didn´t use a magnetometer<br> in the serach...<br> <br> <br> best rgds,<br> <br> pekka<br> <br> harlan trammell wrote:<br> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:BAY1-F99w9LlvGAkdl90000479a_at_hotmail.com"> <div style="background-color:"> <div>in the manufacture of steel, siliceous minerals float on the molten iron and are not mixed in because of the iron's greater density. even in a zero -gravity situation, the density differences would push the lighter materials to the surface or outside of the molten iron body UNLESS there was extreme pressure and current such as found in the mantles of planets. in the shirokovsky scheme, how would the olivene be thoroughly mixed? also, would an etche pattern show up even if the "iron matrix" in a fake was made from actual meteorite like gibeon , sikhote shrapnel etc.?</div> </div> <br clear="All"> <hr>Help STOP SPAM with <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMHENUS/2731??PS=">the new MSN 8 </a> and get 2 months FREE*______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list">http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list</a> </blockquote> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="$mailwrapcol">-- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin">http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin</a> Group Email Address: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eurocoin_at_smartgroups.com">eurocoin@smartgroups.com</a> </pre> <br> </body> </html> --------------090605090207090707000509--Received on Thu 29 May 2003 06:15:33 PM PDT |
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