[meteorite-list] Contest Answers/ Winner
From: Tom aka James Knudson <knudson911_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:45 2004 Message-ID: <006501c32410$3dfeeee0$5ec843d8_at_malcolm> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C323D5.90950F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Larry and list, This proves with out a shadow of a doubt, what has = been said a thousand time before, you can not identify meteorite from = pictures!=20 Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thetoprok_at_aol.com=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Contest Answers/ Winner The results are in! It looks as if nobody was able to beat the modest score of 11 wrong = answers, given by Phil Morgan on his first try.(Please email me your = address off list Phil) Like almost everyone, he did worse on the second = attempt, I'm not sure what that is all about, maybe it proves what they = say about going with your first gut feeling. A close second was held by Lars Pederson and Dave Johnson, Jeff Kuykin = from meteoritesaustralia also had 12, as well as a fellow known as = Frank. Bravo to you Gentlemen as well. Here the answers are; 1.no, This rock is what we call orbicular jadeite, very beautiful, but = not a meteorite. 2.no, This rock is still a bit of a mystery, it was tested by the U.S. = Dept. of Energy for isotopic counting, and determined non meteoric due = to the lack of AL-26. In light of the article I read from Ron Baalke, = this could be a misdiagnosis due to a high magnesium content, (3.68%). = See 5/21/03 "Triggering the Formation of the Solar System" 3. yes, This is an NWA that that I purchased. 4. no, same as #1 5. yes, same as #3 6. yes, This is Park Forest 7. yes, Bensour 8. yes, Crust,NWA 809 9. yes, NWA 482, Lunar 10. no, some kind of rock with lots of spheres in it,small amount of = metal. 11. no, same as #10 12. yes, NWA 482, same as #9 13. yes, this is a crust shot of Zag, the one with enhydros salt = crystals! 14, no, this is the same as #2 15. yes, NWA 1068 Martian, there is no crust, this is the bare insides = without polishing, it looks remarkably terrestrial. 16. no, same as #2 17. yes, this is Zag again 18. yes, nwa 1068 mars 19. yes, nwa 1068 mars, this is the piece that is to be given away! 20. no, this is a rock that would appear to be related to # 1, yet = different.. 21. yes, this is Sayh Al Uhayimer 001, never let 'em tell ya metal = isn't round in a meteorite. 22. no. This one is an oddity, nearly all of you said it is a 'rite, = I found it at Gold Basin but it is not that meteorite. It has no = chondrules at all, yet it is magnetic and appears to have nickel/iron. I = was told offhandedly that it is not a meteorite. I think it needs = another look. 23. yes, nobody missed this no brainer! it is Gold Basin 24. no, same as #20 25. no, the metal you see in the photo is not as shiny as it looks, = and there arn't any discernable chondrules. The stone is very magnetic = though, maybe a highly weathered meteorite. I found it in the wall of a = barn, where it still sits today. 26. yes, isn't that a beauty! This is a broken piece of Gao, it is the = first meteorite I ever bought. That is a chondrule just sticking out of = it! 27. no. This is the exterior of a rock I was told is not a meteorite, = without any tests. T 28. no. same as #27 29. no, I guess, it is a strange one, many of you decided those = features must be chondrules, as nearly all said it was a 'right. 30. yes, believe it or not, the outside of my Vaca Muerta is turning = yellow and green! 31, yes, it is the inside of Vaca Muerta, I can't believe how many = people got it wrong. 32. no, I know what you are thinking, everyone, without exception said = this is a meteorite, I guess I'm taking mine to the wrong people! The = moment I spotted this one I thought it was a meteorite. It sticks hard = to a magnet, has what appears to be chondrules, a beautiful crust, and a = weathering pattern that is sometimes seen in meteorites, but not like = any earth rocks I've found. It is the same as # 's 27,28,and 40 33. no, this has the most remarkable black crust I have ever seen on a = meteorwrong. It was brought to me by a friend, we later determined that = it is diabase basalt, or "diabolicle" basalt as I like to call it! 34. no, same as #33, interior shot. A surprising number of you called = it a 'rite. 35. no, same as #1 36. no, same as #20, got a huge amount of votes for being a 'rite. 37. no, but I'm not sure, once again, the vote was unanimous I think, = maybe one dissenter, everyone thought it was a 'rite. It is definately = burnt on the outside, and attracted to a magnet. it has what appears to = be inclusions and chondrules in a black matrix. 38. no. the same as #37 39. yes, this is Ghubara, it looks a lot like # 's 37&39 so I put them = side by side. Ironically, the wrong got more votes than the 'rite. 40. no, same as #27 41. no, same as #2 42 &43 are also no, the same as #2 I would like to thank all that participated, it was a lot of fun. I = knew it was going to be difficult, but I am surprised at how difficult = it apparently was. The average score was about 16 or 17 wrong, some went = into the twenties, Whew! The most missed ones were #'2 , #5 #22 #25 # 29 and # 's 37&38 and the = most missed, #32 I guess that sums it up, until next time. Happy Hunting to All ! Larry Atkins, P.S.=20 I returned home from Park Forest today with a beautiful, 95% crusted, = 70 gram individual. It was picked up the morning of the fall and is in = almost perfect condition. This stone has not seen a drop of rain! I will = post pic's later, and offer it for sale. ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C323D5.90950F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#00ffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2>Hello Larry and list, This proves = with out a=20 shadow of a doubt, what has been said a thousand time before, you can = not=20 identify meteorite from pictures! </FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV>Thanks, Tom<BR>The proudest member of the IMCA 6168</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:Thetoprok_at_aol.com"=20 title=3DThetoprok_at_aol.com>Thetoprok@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 26, 2003 = 10:11 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] = Contest=20 Answers/ Winner</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT face=3DArial = lang=3D0 size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">The results are in!<BR>It looks as if nobody was = able to=20 beat the modest score of 11 wrong answers, given by Phil Morgan on his = first=20 try.(Please email me your address off list Phil) Like almost everyone, = he did=20 worse on the second attempt, I'm not sure what that is all about, = maybe it=20 proves what they say about going with your first gut feeling.<BR>A = close=20 second was held by Lars Pederson and Dave Johnson, Jeff Kuykin from=20 meteoritesaustralia also had 12, as well as a fellow known as Frank. = Bravo to=20 you Gentlemen as well.<BR>Here the answers are;<BR>1.no, This rock is = what we=20 call orbicular jadeite, very beautiful, but not a meteorite.<BR>2.no, = This=20 rock is still a bit of a mystery, it was tested by the U.S. Dept. of = Energy=20 for isotopic counting, and determined non meteoric due to the lack of = AL-26.=20 In light of the article I read from Ron Baalke, this could be a = misdiagnosis=20 due to a high magnesium content, (3.68%). See 5/21/03 "Triggering the=20 Formation of the Solar System"<BR>3. yes, This is an NWA that that I=20 purchased.<BR>4. no, same as #1<BR>5. yes, same as #3<BR>6. yes, This = is Park=20 Forest<BR>7. yes, Bensour<BR>8. yes, Crust,NWA 809<BR>9. yes, = NWA 482,=20 Lunar<BR>10. no, some kind of rock with lots of spheres in it,small = amount of=20 metal.<BR>11. no, same as #10<BR>12. yes, NWA 482, same as #9<BR>13. = yes, this=20 is a crust shot of Zag, the one with enhydros salt = crystals!<BR>14, =20 no, this is the same as #2<BR>15. yes, NWA 1068 Martian, there = is no=20 crust, this is the bare insides without polishing, it looks remarkably = terrestrial.<BR>16. no, same as #2<BR>17. yes, this is Zag = again<BR>18. yes,=20 nwa 1068 mars<BR>19. yes, nwa 1068 mars, this is the piece that is to = be given=20 away!<BR>20. no, this is a rock that would appear to be related to # = 1, yet=20 different..<BR>21. yes, this is Sayh Al Uhayimer 001, never let 'em = tell ya=20 metal isn't round in a meteorite.<BR>22. no. This one is an = oddity,=20 nearly all of you said it is a 'rite, I found it at Gold Basin but it = is not=20 that meteorite. It has no chondrules at all, yet it is magnetic and = appears to=20 have nickel/iron. I was told offhandedly that it is not a meteorite. I = think=20 it needs another look.<BR>23. yes, nobody missed this no brainer! it = is Gold=20 Basin<BR>24. no, same as #20<BR>25. no, the metal you see in the = photo=20 is not as shiny as it looks, and there arn't any discernable = chondrules. The=20 stone is very magnetic though, maybe a highly weathered meteorite. I = found it=20 in the wall of a barn, where it still sits today.<BR>26. yes, isn't = that a=20 beauty! This is a broken piece of Gao, it is the first meteorite I = ever=20 bought. That is a chondrule just sticking out of it!<BR>27. no. This = is the=20 exterior of a rock I was told is not a meteorite, without any tests. = T<BR>28.=20 no. same as #27<BR>29. no, I guess, it is a strange one, many of you = decided=20 those features must be chondrules, as nearly all said it was a = 'right.<BR>30.=20 yes, believe it or not, the outside of my Vaca Muerta is turning = yellow and=20 green!<BR>31, yes, it is the inside of Vaca Muerta, I can't believe = how many=20 people got it wrong.<BR>32. no, I know what you are thinking, = everyone,=20 without exception said this is a meteorite, I guess I'm taking mine to = the=20 wrong people! The moment I spotted this one I thought it was a = meteorite. It=20 sticks hard to a magnet, has what appears to be chondrules, a = beautiful crust,=20 and a weathering pattern that is sometimes seen in meteorites, but not = like=20 any earth rocks I've found. It is the same as # 's 27,28,and 40<BR>33. = no,=20 this has the most remarkable black crust I have ever seen on a = meteorwrong. It=20 was brought to me by a friend, we later determined that it is diabase = basalt,=20 or "diabolicle" basalt as I like to call it!<BR>34. no, same as #33, = interior=20 shot. A surprising number of you called it a 'rite.<BR>35. no, same as = #1<BR>36. no, same as #20, got a huge amount of votes for being a=20 'rite.<BR>37. no, but I'm not sure, once again, the vote was unanimous = I=20 think, maybe one dissenter, everyone thought it was a 'rite. It is = definately=20 burnt on the outside, and attracted to a magnet. it has what appears = to be=20 inclusions and chondrules in a black matrix.<BR>38. no. the same as = #37<BR>39.=20 yes, this is Ghubara, it looks a lot like # 's 37&39 so I put them = side by=20 side. Ironically, the wrong got more votes than the 'rite.<BR>40. no, = same as=20 #27<BR>41. no, same as #2<BR>42 &43 are also no, the same as = #2<BR><BR>I=20 would like to thank all that participated, it was a lot of fun. I knew = it was=20 going to be difficult, but I am surprised at how difficult it = apparently was.=20 The average score was about 16 or 17 wrong, some went into the = twenties, =20 Whew!<BR><BR>The most missed ones were #'2 , #5 #22 #25 # 29 and # 's=20 37&38 and the most missed, #32<BR><BR>I guess that sums it up, = until next=20 time.<BR><BR>Happy Hunting to All !<BR>Larry Atkins,<BR><BR>P.S. <BR>I = returned home from Park Forest today with a beautiful, 95% crusted, 70 = gram=20 individual. It was picked up the morning of the fall and is in almost = perfect=20 condition. This stone has not seen a drop of rain! I will post pic's = later,=20 and offer it for = sale.<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C323D5.90950F80-- Received on Tue 27 May 2003 01:24:25 AM PDT |
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