[meteorite-list] Item #2175659927 - What IF it is Iron-shale?

From: TMS/TNS/HRC <musnat_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:45 2004
Message-ID: <008a01c322ad$5f28c5a0$658c70d1_at_museumst>

Interesting! I doubt I would be that lucky, but I'll have a good look at
it!
Thanks,
Jeannie


>
> --- TMS/TNS/HRC <musnat_at_alaska.net> wrote:
> > Just as an FYI regarding iron meteorite vs. iron
> > shale. As many of you know
> > from a previous thread last year I purchased
> > material from Ebay advertised
> > as Canyon Diablo Meteorites, and was sent shale. My
> > credit card company
> > definitely made me jump through some hoops, but
> > ultimately I was refunded my
> > money, then temporarily charged again due to a
> > rebuttal from the seller, and
> > eventually with the help of several list members was
> > able to put together an
> > informative packet regarding iron meteorite vs. iron
> > shale and received
> > credit in full.
> >
> > The dispute never reached Ebay, as it was handled
> > via Visa.
> >
> > The rediculous thing is that the vendor never even
> > wanted his material
> > back!!
> >
> > I agree that meteoritic shale is not worthless, and
> > has some merit, but
> > should be plainly advertised as such. When you buy
> > Canyon Diablo
> > meteorites, you do expect them to attract a magnet!!
> >
> > Jeannie Devon
> >
>
>
> Jeannie,
>
> Meteor Crater "iron shale" is not worthless... In fact
> there may very well be some pieces that are worth
> hundreds of dollars per/gram...
>
> How so?
>
> I and Dr. John Wasson, in a project that I proposed,
> but those people at MCE refused altogther, after 10
> years of jumping through their ever more impossible
> hoops... we had as one of our objectives collecting
> ALL meteorite oxides of any appreciable size.
>
> This was an added part of the project when Dr. Wasson
> and myself were very priviledged to have seen the
> original burial cyst with actual chunks of the Winona
> Meteorte inside. It was very well preserved, cyst
> extracted from the ground with perhaps 10 lbs of
> Winona meteortes inside!
>
> This was not on display, but tucked in a back storage
> room.
>
> Upon examining a piece, we were both struck by the
> trememdous similarity to the oxide pieces found at
> meteor crater. In fact, I am certain that over 25
> years ago, not far from the crater I found a weird
> oxide chunk with the same green stains that Winona has
> as a major characteristic separating it from the much
> more common meteorite shales.
>
> Dr. Wasson expressed to me that he thinks after seeing
> this, and with my report of a possible similar find at
> meteor crater that Winona is a silicate fragment from
> that meteorite that created the crater. In fact, he
> said to me that the type of meteorite that made the
> crater SHOULD have silicates... and some fragments do
> in fact have some, as I had one that I sold to him
> with two peanut sized silicate inclusions in it.
>
> That Winona might be related to the meteorite that
> made meteor crater is a very exciting possibllity...
> one that needs to be explored.
>
> But now, because MCE aka Bar-T-Bar is recalcitrant in
> giving "official" permits to make collections, we may
> never know.
>
> But keep your eyes open... If you find in that pile of
> oxides, a strange one with dark green Ni streaks, and
> a somewhat lighter shade of dark tan...
>
> Better cut it, and examine it carefully...
>
> It could be the another definitive sample of the
> Winona Meteorite... tying it with meteor crater.
>
> And who, at any time ever spent the time to really
> examine the multitudes of oxide found around the
> crater? Tucked in all of that could be silicate
> inclusions, disguised, and ignored...
>
> Winonites!
>
> The original found by observant Native Americans 900
> years ago as they were hunting game around the crater.
>
> And today such similar silicates may be overlooked and
> tossed aside by all those collectors focused only on
> solid iron meteortes!
>
> What a find in the midst of that oxide such would be!
>
> A true statement of discovery for the records!
>
> Steve Schoner
> http://www.geocites.com/meteorite_identification
>
>
>
>
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