[meteorite-list] Weight scam
From: Pekka Savolainen <pekka.savolainen_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:45 2004 Message-ID: <3ED14A33.9080101_at_dlc.fi> --------------030306060503040700010406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, Mike and the list, well, I suppose, Carlos will stay in minerals in the future, at least I hope so. Didnīt find any meteorite from his active listings. From his descriptions; The weight of each item corresponds with its weight when it is prepared for ets shipment. ------------------- The weight of the specimens is its real weight. When making purchases of several specimens, the weight of this specimens are increased 50% to calculate the shipping cost. when the packages are ready for shipment, we weigh them again, and if it's difference to your favor among the shipping cost you have paid and the final shipping cost result, we refund you your money. If you wish it you can combine specimens in an alone sending(parcel). I can aggree, to read and underrestand this is not very clear, even if you use trigonometry. Anyway, the weight of the specimens can be anything between some grams to some kilograms, and think he has build this system just to get the items listed faster. Itīs also quite usual in minerals, you could have some hundreds of kilograms material, when you come back from the field, and itīs wise to pack crystals as soon as possible, sometimes on the field, to avoid to breaking of them. The first description he has used is quite clear to me, the second is a bit more complicated. But with a good will and some reading you can find out the idea to increase the weight 50%. Iīm not saying, the description is correct, when we are talking about meteorites, but I belive, this is the best, he could done with his not so good english; When making purchases of several specimens, the weight of this specimens are increased 50% to calculate the shipping cost. when the packages are ready for shipment, we weigh them again, and if it's differen ... So maybe itīs better to stay (at least to me) in more simple things and buy the items from the professionals...;- take care, pekka Michael Farmer wrote: > Well guys, sorry to be so "Anal" but any way you possible look at > this, the situation is still ludicrous. the simple solution for him > would be to do like basically everyone else I have ever seen on ebay, > quote a price for domestic and international shipping. That is what I > do. The packaging material especially for a small NWA meteorite is > NIL, You use a bubble envelope for something that weighs 30 grams. > Shipping from Spain on an item that small is about $4.00 airmail. > > And the person who called me anal, well, I guess you go to the > supermarket and buy steak, paying for 2 pounds only to find you get 1 > pound of meat and one pound of plastic. Ill bet you would go right > back to the store. I sure would. > > Well, I just hope everyone sees this mess and decides to buy from > someone who actually does not need to use trigonometry to calculate > shipping material, deducting the gas money and terrorism risks to go > to the post office to ship, dividing the sum of the parts of the stone > subtracting the atomic number of gold. Pretty stupid huh? > > End of story, buy from dealers. > > Mike Farmer > -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: eurocoin_at_smartgroups.com --------------030306060503040700010406 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> </head> <body> <br> Hello, Mike and the list,<br> <br> well, I suppose, Carlos will stay in minerals in the future, at least I hope<br> so. Didn´t find any meteorite from his active listings.<br> <br> >From his descriptions;<br> <br> <p><b><font size="4">The weight of each item corresponds with its weight when it is prepared for ets shipment.</font></b></p> <p>-------------------</p> <p><b><font size="4">The weight of the specimens is its real weight. When making purchases of several specimens, the weight of this specimens are increased 50% to calculate the shipping cost. when the packages are ready for shipment, we weigh them again, and if it's difference to your favor among the shipping cost you have paid and the final shipping cost result, we refund you your money.</font></b></p> <p><font size="4"><b>If you wish it you can combine specimens in an alone sending(parcel).</b></font></p> <p><font size="4"><b><br> </b></font></p> I can aggree, to read and underrestand this is not very clear, even if you use trigonometry. Anyway, the weight of the specimens <br> can be anything between some grams to some kilograms, and think he has build this system just to get the items listed faster. It´s<br> also quite usual in minerals, you could have some hundreds of kilograms material, when you come back from the field, and it´s wise<br> to pack crystals as soon as possible, sometimes on the field, to avoid to breaking of them.<br> <br> The first description he has used is quite clear to me, the second is a bit more complicated. But with a good will and some reading you<br> can find out the idea to increase the weight 50%. I´m not saying, the description is correct, when we are talking about meteorites, but<br> I belive, this is the best, he could done with his not so good english;<br> <br> <b><font size="4">When making purchases of several specimens, the weight of this specimens are increased 50% to calculate the shipping cost. when the packages are ready for shipment, we weigh them again, and if it's differen</font></b> ...<br> <br> So maybe it´s better to stay (at least to me) in more simple things and buy the items from the professionals...;-<br> <br> take care,<br> <br> pekka<br> <p><br> </p> <br> <br> Michael Farmer wrote:<br> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:00fa01c3230c$6b1f50e0$ce30ef42_at_computer"> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name="GENERATOR"> <style></style> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Well guys, sorry to be so "Anal" but any way you possible look at this, the situation is still ludicrous. the simple solution for him would be to do like basically everyone else I have ever seen on ebay, quote a price for domestic and international shipping. That is what I do. The packaging material especially for a small NWA meteorite is NIL, You use a bubble envelope for something that weighs 30 grams. Shipping from Spain on an item that small is about $4.00 airmail. </font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"> And the person who called me anal, well, I guess you go to the supermarket and buy steak, paying for 2 pounds only to find you get 1 pound of meat and one pound of plastic. Ill bet you would go right back to the store. I sure would. </font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"> Well, I just hope everyone sees this mess and decides to buy from someone who actually does not need to use trigonometry to calculate shipping material, deducting the gas money and terrorism risks to go to the post office to ship, dividing the sum of the parts of the stone subtracting the atomic number of gold. Pretty stupid huh? </font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">End of story, buy from dealers. </font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Mike Farmer</font></div> </blockquote> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="$mailwrapcol">-- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin">http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin</a> Group Email Address: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eurocoin_at_smartgroups.com">eurocoin@smartgroups.com</a> </pre> <br> </body> </html> --------------030306060503040700010406--Received on Sun 25 May 2003 06:56:51 PM PDT |
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