[meteorite-list] R5 information

From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:42 2004
Message-ID: <000f01c31fb4$3b3c7ca0$6631ef42_at_computer>

Dean, et al, having an oriented stone makes no difference. I have a 845 gram
perfectly oriented nosecone of the Park Forest fall. I also have fragments
and odd shaped non-oriented stones.
That simply does not confirm nor absolve the meteorites from being paired.
Mike Farmer
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From: "dean bessey" <deanbessey_at_yahoo.com>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] R5 information


> Yes, it is a valid discussion. An R5 is an important
> and rare meteorite. When I sold mine late last year
> almost nobody had it in their collection and I had
> several institutions wanting some to. I am not sure
> how 77 grams got listed in the met bulletin but my
> stone was only 26.5 grams (And sorry, except for my
> small 1/3 gram piece which I am keeping as an example
> to compare it to in case more shows up I have none
> left and I dont have any of Farmers R5 so I no longer
> have an economic interest in the R5 - not right now
> anyway).
> As farmer indicated, it does indeed seem odd that two
> rare R5s shows up at the same time. But they didnt
> really show up together. I have had my R5 a year and a
> half after a local in Morocco told me that he had a
> new Lunar and would I be willing to get it classified
> and split the proceeds with him. After agreeing he
> sent me the 26.5 gram rock. Of course it wasnt a lunar
> and had a little magnetism (Yes, even Rs have a little
> magnetism if you look hard enough and have a strong
> enough of a magnet) - Personally I thought that it was
> a C chondrite after I say it with a very small
> possibility of it being an LL6. So much for visual
> guess.
> It took me over a year to get it classified (Where are
> those for profit classification services that was
> being talked about a year ago - this inability to get
> stuff classified is driving me nuts) and after getting
> the classification I started selling it (It sold out
> within a week and I had requests for more).
> So the two R5s wasnt actually brought out of Morocco
> at the same time. The new R only started coming out
> around the beginning of this year. So if me and farmer
> have the same one, it was sent to me for over a year
> and the moroccans stockpiled it without trying to sell
> any and only started selling it after I sold mine and
> gave them the classification. Which I guess could be
> plausable since if the moroccans thought that it was a
> lunar (The moroccans seem to think that anything
> magnetic like an LL or less is a lunar nowadays it
> seems and want big bucks for it) and that they knew
> that I was getting it classified for them that the
> moroccans figured that it would be better to hold on
> to it until I told them for sure what it was. That of
> course is just a plausable scenario. I dont think that
> this is what happened.
> Also, mine does look nothing like the rest of the R5s
> and was totally oriented and not a fragment. It doesnt
> sound like the rest to me.
> If mine is paired it would basically have to be a 26.5
> gram inclusion that was a lot bigger before it melted
> in the atmosphere.
> But from photos mine does not look the same and my
> customers of NWA1585 has said that side by side they
> dont look like the same meteorite. Maybe I should grab
> a piece of the new R5 as I havent seen the new one up
> close myself.
> Cheers
> DEAN
> www.meteoriteshop.com
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Received on Wed 21 May 2003 12:15:42 PM PDT