[meteorite-list] New Mexico U. Gets Norton Meteorite - Part 1 of 2
From: MARK BOSTICK <thebigcollector_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:41 2004 Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV115qnaGHQxz00008d34_at_hotmail.com> ------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C31D6F.E369E850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Bernd and list, Thanks for the background information Bernd. While one can understand LaP= az's position, it is a shame he let personal feelings get in the way of f= urthering the understanding of meteorites...in this case surface features= . A subject Nininger spoke more of then anyone else I am aware of. =20 To not see the positive effects that Nininger was doing at the time for m= eteorites would be at the best termed as ignorance. (Ignorance means not= knowing). It was during my current research of Nininger newspaper articles that I s= tumbled upon the Norton article. I remember from somewhere that LaPaz sa= id something to the effect that the university getting the meteorite was = a step towards the advancement of meteorites, which was a reference to Ni= ninger not getting the stone. I was hoping to find a newspaper article w= ith such a statement. As Richard Norton reported at Tucson this year, there are many people who= even today do not believe that meteorites should belong in private colle= ctions. However when one looks at the mass of rare meteorites that have = been recovered the last 10 years because of my fellow sellers and collect= ors one has to question that logic. =20 Getting back to Nininger, I have compiled links to all the Nininger newsp= aper articles I have currently uncovered. =20 http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpnininger.html Wishing everyone on the list has been safe from the tornado's that have h= it the central United States this last month, Mark Bostick ----- Original Message ----- From: bernd.pauli_at_paulinet.de Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 2:45 PM To: Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Mexico U. Gets Norton Meteorite - Part 1 of= 2 > New Mexico Gets Huge Aerolite Transferred Safely From Nebraska Farm .. or how to bridge the gap between two quarrelers :-) No, for heaven's sake, I won't mention any names! Please, enjoy U.B. Marvin's article on the Nininger and LaPaz feud: (Meteoritics 28-3, 1993, pp. 271-273): MARVIN U.B.: The Norton County-Furnas County Meteorite Fall, February 18,= 1948 A spectacular fireball accompanied by violent explosions streaked northwa= rd over Kansas at 5:00 p.m. on February 18, 1948. One hour later, LaPaz w= as informed of the event by the Civil Air Patrol, who thought at first th= at a plane had crashed. LaPaz followed up sightings through Civil Air Pat= rol channels, concluded that a meteorite had fallen, and within two weeks= , calculated a probable shower ellipse near the Kansas-Nebraska line. Meanwhile, the Niningers heard the news, went to the scene, and talked wi= th many people, but a mid-winter blizzard forced them to leave before com= pleting a search for meteorites. A farmer living in Norton County, Kansas= , found the first stone late in the following spring, and after that many= more were found in the same general area. In August, a farmer working hi= s fields in Furnas County, Nebraska, a few miles north of the Kansas-Nebr= aska line, felt his tractor tilt steeply and found it perched at the edge= of a hole 10 ft. deep with a huge stone at the bottom. The stone proved = to be a magnificent flight-oriented cone weighing nearly one ton. This pi= ece holds the record as the largest stony meteorite specimen in North Ame= rica. Nininger asserted later that he had alerted the farmer to look for large = stones on his property, and so the farmer had called him to report his di= scovery. Nininger traveled to the farm as soon as possible and climbed do= wn into the hole to collect small chips that lay on the bottom and to pre= pare to collect the huge stone. But this stone lay within the strewnfield= predicted by LaPaz who felt that his map together with his own lines of = communication constituted a valid claim. Presently, Nininger heard voices= and looked up to see LaPaz and Leonard peering over the edge of the hole= . LaPaz' party of five soon was joined by a party of four from the Nebras= ka State and University Museums. LaPaz claimed prior rights to the stone,= based on his calculations of the find site and the notice that had been = sent to him. Nininger claimed finders' rights as well as what amounted to= squatters' rights. As neither man would yield, permission was obtained f= rom the absentee landlord to hold an auction in the farmhouse at night. Together, the Institute of Meteoritics= and the University of Nebraska outbid Nininger, who left the scene. The = stone was securely wrapped in burlap, coated with plaster of Paris, and l= ifted out of the hole by a crane. It then was loaded on a truck for a slo= w 550-mile drive to the Institute of Meteoritics in Albuquerque. To: thebigcollector_at_msn.com Cc: Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C31D6F.E369E850 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Hello Bernd an= d list,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for the background informatio= n Bernd. While one can understand LaPaz's position, it is a shame he let = personal feelings get in the way of furthering the understanding of meteo= rites...in this case surface features. A subject Nininger spoke mor= e of then anyone else I am aware of. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>= To not see the positive effects that Nininger was doing at the time for m= eteorites would be at the best termed as ignorance. (Ignorance mean= s not knowing).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It was during my current res= earch of Nininger newspaper articles that I stumbled upon the Norton arti= cle. I remember from somewhere that LaPaz said something to the eff= ect that the university getting the meteorite was a step towards the adva= ncement of meteorites, which was a reference to Nininger not getting the = stone. I was hoping to find a newspaper article with such a stateme= nt.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As Richard Norton reported at Tucson thi= s year, there are many people who even today do not believe that meteorit= es should belong in private collections. However when one looks at = the mass of rare meteorites that have been recovered the last 10 years be= cause of my fellow sellers and collectors one has to question that logic.= </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Getting back to Nininger, I have com= piled links to all the Nininger newspaper articles I have currently uncov= ered. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href=3D"http://www.meteoritearticl= es.com/znpnininger.html">http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpnininger.htm= l</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wishing everyone on the list has = been safe from the tornado's that have hit the central United States= this last month,</DIV> <DIV>Mark Bostick</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQ= UOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BO= RDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10p= t Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4= e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> bernd.pauli_at_paulinet.d= e</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 18, 2003= 2:45 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> Meteorite-list_at_= meteoritecentral.com</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B= > [meteorite-list] New Mexico U. Gets Norton Meteorite - Part 1 of 2</DIV= > <DIV> </DIV>> New Mexico Gets Huge Aerolite Transferred Safely = >From Nebraska Farm<BR><BR>.. or how to bridge the gap between two quarrel= ers :-)<BR>No, for heaven's sake, I won't mention any names!<BR><BR>Pleas= e, enjoy U.B. Marvin's article on the Nininger and LaPaz feud:<BR><BR>(Me= teoritics 28-3, 1993, pp. 271-273):<BR><BR>MARVIN U.B.: The Norton County= -Furnas County Meteorite Fall, February 18, 1948<BR><BR>A spectacular fir= eball accompanied by violent explosions streaked northward over Kansas at= 5:00 p.m. on February 18, 1948. One hour later, LaPaz was informed of th= e event by the Civil Air Patrol, who thought at first that a plane had cr= ashed. LaPaz followed up sightings through Civil Air Patrol channels, con= cluded that a meteorite had fallen, and within two weeks, calculated a pr= obable shower ellipse near the Kansas-Nebraska line.<BR>Meanwhile, the Ni= ningers heard the news, went to the scene, and talked with many people, b= ut a mid-winter blizzard forced them to leave before completing a search = for meteorites. A farmer living in Norton County, Kansas, found the first= stone late in the following spring, and after that many more were found = in the same general area. In August, a farmer working his fields in Furna= s County, Nebraska, a few miles north of the Kansas-Nebraska line, felt h= is tractor tilt steeply and found it perched at the edge of a hole 10 ft.= deep with a huge stone at the bottom. The stone proved to be a magnifice= nt flight-oriented cone weighing nearly one ton. This piece holds the rec= ord as the largest stony meteorite specimen in North America.<BR>Nininger= asserted later that he had alerted the farmer to look for large stones o= n his property, and so the farmer had called him to report his discovery.= Nininger traveled to the farm as soon as possible and climbed down into = the hole to collect small chips that lay on the bottom and to prepare to = collect the huge stone. But this stone lay within the strewnfield predict= ed by LaPaz who felt that his map together with his own lines of communic= ation constituted a valid claim. Presently, Nininger heard voices and loo= ked up to see LaPaz and Leonard peering over the edge of the hole. LaPaz'= party of five soon was joined by a party of four from the Nebraska State= and University Museums. LaPaz claimed prior rights to the stone, based o= n his calculations of the find site and the notice that had been sent to = him. Nininger claimed finders' rights as well as what amounted to squatte= rs' rights. As neither man would yield, permission was obtained from the = absentee landlord to hold an<BR>auction in the farmhouse at night. Togeth= er, the Institute of Meteoritics and the University of Nebraska outbid Ni= ninger, who left the scene. The stone was securely wrapped in burlap, coa= ted with plaster of Paris, and lifted out of the hole by a crane. It then= was loaded on a truck for a slow 550-mile drive to the Institute of Mete= oritics in Albuquerque.<BR><BR>To: thebigcollector_at_msn.com<BR>Cc: Meteori= te-list_at_meteoritecentral.com<BR><BR><BR>_________________________________= _____________<BR>Meteorite-list mailing list<BR>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritec= entral.com<BR>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list<BR>= </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C31D6F.E369E850-- Received on Sun 18 May 2003 08:01:29 PM PDT |
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