[meteorite-list] Hunters?

From: Michel <Michel_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:40 2004
Message-ID: <008701c31ab5$67bbceb0$2101a8c0_at_nomedrlg3eut06>

Mike,


I never said nor think that you only hunt known strewnfield. Please stop
thinking that you attacked when some one only expresses his own opinion.
I must tell you, personnally, that I am glad each time a new meteorite is
discovered, even if is not not by me, fortunatly for the meteorite
community. Your talents to bring new meteorites for science and collectors
have been recognized long time ago. I am sure that you will bring more and
more, it is just matter of time and statistics.

Best hunt.

Michel FRANCO



----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Farmer" <farmerm_at_concentric.net>
To: "Matson, Robert" <ROBERT.D.MATSON_at_saic.com>
Cc: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hunters?


> Just to clarify, what makes you think that I only hunt known strewnfields?
I
> just listed some of the more remote far off places I have flown to in
order
> to show the willingness to go anywhere as opposed to only flying to
Chicago
> for a couple days like some of my competitors. I have hunted cold more
times
> than I can count. Unfortunately I have yet to find a new meteorite all to
> myself.
> Well, Ill keep trying.
> Mike Farmer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michel Franco" <michel_at_caillou-noir.com>
> To: "Matson, Robert" <ROBERT.D.MATSON_at_saic.com>
> Cc: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 1:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hunters?
>
>
> > Hi Robert, Hi list
> >
> > I agree with your position, Robert.
> >
> > In my opinion the real hunt is when you are the first human to grab from
> the
> > ground a new meteorite. ( a meteorite never identified by any human
> before
> > as a cosmic gift)
> >
> > - You can either track a ( new of course ) fall on clues given by
> > watchers. I recovered the Oued al Hadjar 1986 fall in 1998.
> >
> > - You can either prospect a favourablea area. Gold Basin , Dar Al
> Gani,
> > HaH , others . In these you may find meteorite that are paired with
> already
> > known ( and published ) meteorites. But you can also find new ones. I
> found
> > the first CM2 and the first CR2 of DaG, among others.
> >
> > For me the noblest hunt is the fall hunting. I only found one of that
> kind.
> > Please note that in the Oued El hadjar case, I was guided on the landing
> > field by autochtones but I was the one we found the first fragment and
> > showed it to the people around. After that in a couple of hours we
> recovered
> > 1200 g of it.
> >
> > I think that people going on already known strewn fields are also
hunters.
> > It 's easier, you can buy from a reknown dealer a specimen to adapt your
> eye
> > to what you will hunt, which is not at all the case for new meteorites
YOU
> > discover.
> >
> > Last point: I also think that the most difficult thing to do is to find
a
> > ( new of course ) favourable strewn field. In the last years I can list:
> > Acfer,and some other algerian related fields, (far from the "famous"
> border
> > with Morocco where few really know what is going on,), Gold Basin, DaG
> HaH,
> > Oman. Do I miss major ones ( except Antarctica ) . The community should
> > reward this ( these ?) anonymous finder who disclosed these fields.
;-).
> >
> > Are there more fields like that ?
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
> > Michel FRANCO
> > Caillou Noir
> > 100 chemin des Campènes
> > 74400 Chamonix France
> > http://www.caillou-noir.com
> > + 33 450 53 17 57
> > + 33 671 626 928
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Matson, Robert" <ROBERT.D.MATSON_at_saic.com>
> > To: "'Michael Farmer'" <farmerm_at_concentric.net>;
> > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 6:47 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Hunters?
> >
> >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > > I have to disagree Robert, I have been hunting in Burkina Faso,
> Lesotho,
> > > > Bolivia, Chile, Mexico, Canada, Portugal and many other places, and
I
> > > > have found many.
> > >
> > > I probably should have been more clear in my definition, or at
> > > least made a distinction between "cued" hunting and blind hunting.
> > > There is a subtle difference between hunting the strewnfields of
> > > new falls -- Thuathe (Lesotho), Bilanga (Burkino Faso), Ourique
> > > (Portugal), and most recently Park Forest, and older strewnfields
> > > (Holbrook, Correo, Imilac, Allende, Gold Basin, etc.), versus
> > > striking out into open desert (or wherever) and making a new
> > > discovery.
> > >
> > > I think of strewnfield-hunting as retrieval, in the sense that
> > > no strewnfield is ever completely hunted out, and consequently
> > > the hunter has a psychological advantage knowing that he or
> > > she is not wasting their time in a possibly fruitless area.
> > > Sooner or later, finds will be made. This is especially true
> > > of a new fall.
> > >
> > > That is not to say that hunting strewnfields, new or old, is
> > > an easy task. Aside from the expense and travel to far-flung
> > > corners of the world, you can't just show up and expect to
> > > find meteorites with no difficulty. It is a skill that is
> > > acquired, as I'm sure you will attest from your own experiences
> > > around the world.
> > >
> > > But making new finds (or being the first to discover a meteorite
> > > from a new fall -- e.g. Neuschwanstein) requires another notch
> > > of commitment and a completely new set of skills. You don't
> > > know what your quarry looks like, and you don't know where,
> > > when or even if you will find it. About all you DO know is
> > > *how* you'll go about it.
> > >
> > > I see in the latest Meteoritical Bulletin that a new meteorite
> > > find is credited to you: Pitino (H5) from Argentina. So if I'm
> > > reading the Table 1 correctly, then you *are* a meteorite hunter
> > > in the purest sense of the term, and I stand corrected.
> > >
> > > Congrats!
> > > Rob
> > >
> > >
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