[meteorite-list] Big-Ass Purple Campo

From: Bill Mason III <bmason3_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:35 2004
Message-ID: <002601c31235$9da7eaa0$0c02a8c0_at_ce1.client2.attbi.com>

Dear Bob,
    Since March I have been swamped.....I sold my building,had to move of
25,500 Sq.Feet of 28 years of accumulation, Dispose of 38 years of
accumulated chemicals from the laboratory and warehouse so they could be
properly destroyed $11,887.00 later. Move into a new smaller office, move in
to a new smaller warehouse. Give two lectures in Colorado on subsequent
weekends. Make arrangements to make the next batch of VCI-286 without the
tracer next time we rerun the batch and worry about you.
    As I sit at my computer I have just written you a personal check to
refund your money,you are the only person that has complained about the kit
since it was introduced and Bob I don't want to cheat or offend you in
anyway. You now have clean meteorites with a big-ass purple UV indicator
formula VCI-286 in your trash can. Clean off your coating with Acetone, MEK,
or Ethyl Acetate; they will now rust, but they won't be big-ass purple in
the high actinic UV light of your day.
    Bill Mason



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Martino" <martino.6_at_osu.edu>
To: "Bill Mason III" <bmason3_at_attbi.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Big-Ass Purple Campo


> Bill,
>
> I've heard nothing back from you since late March. Were you going to issue
a
> refund to my credit card for the kit, or send me another can of the
sealant?
>
> -----
> Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ
>
> Can you really name a star? Read the Truth!
> http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/
> .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Mason III" <bmason3_at_attbi.com>
> To: "Bob Martino" <martino.6_at_osu.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 6:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Big-Ass Purple Campo
>
>
> > Dear Bob,
> > I have read your broadcast to the meteorite world. Thank you?
> > It is illuminating to me just how bad I must write directions. You
didn't
> > understand and you didn't call me to explain while you were having
> problems.
> > So you have a purple Campo. Bring it inside out of the sun, what color
is
> it
> > now? Did you mix the neutralizer 20 parts of water to 2 parts of
> > concentrate? If so you did it right. The oven temperature of 130F should
> > only dry the water out of the neutralizer and leave a monomolecular
> > invisible coating. Acetone will not affect the VCI chemistry. But you
are
> > going to have to seal the outside with something. You can use the
> > neutralizer solution by its self and you get a year+ protection from
rust
> > and it won't turn purple out in the sun. I'll return your money.
Sorry
> > about your experience.
> > Bill Mason
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Martino" <martino.6_at_osu.edu>
> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 12:29 PM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Big-Ass Purple Campo
> >
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > And now for an update on the Big-Ass Campo formerly known as "Rusty."
> > >
> > > As you may recall (those who care, anyway), I bought a 19-pound Campo
at
> > the
> > > Tucson 2003 show this year. No "New Campo" this, it was definitely an
> > > Old-School specimen. Totally covered in rust.
> > >
> > > I contacted Bill Mason and bought one of his new Meteorite Treatment
> Kits.
> > > Unfortunately, I've had mixed results with it.
> > >
> > > Yes, the rust-eating acid worked very well indeed. Unfortunately, the
> > > instructions included with the kit left a bit to be desired. In one
> place
> > > they say to neutralize the acid next, then soak it in alcohol. In
> another
> > > place, it wrongly states to soak in alcohol first and _then_ use the
> acid
> > > neutralizer. (Guess which instructions I followed.) I also followed
the
> > > instruction set which didn't happen to mention that the acid
neutralizer
> > > needs to be diluted with water first (In one place the instructions
say
> > > dilute 10:1 with water, and in another it says 20:1). The result was a
> > > sticky meteorite with way too much neutralizer on it. Thus, when the
> oven
> > > baking was in progress, my house was filled with a nasty burning
> chemical
> > > stink. The heat also apparently destroyed the neutralizer chemicals,
> > leaving
> > > me with an ugly white deposit on the specimen (The fact that the cat
> grew
> > > another head is probably just a coincidence).
> > >
> > > So I went back and re-did the whole thing. At least the acid treatment
> > went
> > > fast because most of the rust was already gone. I also took the time
to
> > work
> > > over my 4-inch long Nantan with the rust remover (It's now a nice
2-inch
> > > long Nantan). I got the order of treatment and the concentration of
> > > chemicals correct this time, I think.
> > >
> > > Everything went well until the final coating with the spray-on
sealant.
> > Now,
> > > my Nantan and my Campo are purple.
> > >
> > > I can think of perhaps three reasons for this:
> > >
> > > (1) I left the two specimens in the sun all day to dry & cure the
spray
> > > coating. Did a chemical/color change occur because of light, heat, or
> > both?
> > > (2) Perhaps the acid neutralizer was still too concentrated. There may
> > have
> > > been a reaction between the neutralizer and the spray-on coating.
> > > (3) Perhaps the spray-on coating is simply too thick. I used four
coats.
> > The
> > > instructions _did_ say "spray on more layers to add mil thickness,"
but
> > then
> > > again, they failed me before.
> > >
> > > There is nothing in the instructions warning about Purple Haze or how
to
> > > avoid it.
> > >
> > > Has anyone else have this problem?
> > >
> > > So now I'm faced with removing the coating with acetone and trying yet
> > > again. I'm also wondering how the acetone will affect the special
> > > rust-inhibiting chemicals applied to the specimen by the various
> treatment
> > > steps. Will I have to start all over again, or can I just spray on a
new
> > > coating and not worry? More important, how do I prevent the Purple
Haze
> > from
> > > returning?
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ
> > >
> > > Can you really name a star? Read the Truth!
> > > http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Received on Sun 04 May 2003 08:06:37 AM PDT