[meteorite-list] Park Forest

From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:23:54 2004
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Jeff, and Dr Wadhwa. I will just say this, whatever the source, all of =
us here, Adam Hupe, Al Lang, Steve Witt, Gary Curtis, Al Mitterling, =
Steve Arnold meteorite broker etc, have all heard various versions of =
the same thing, from so many people here, and it seems to have =
originated in the police department. So I do now know who started it, =
but what I said is being passes around as the word of law to many =
people.=20
    I would just hope that we could all cooperate, there is plenty of =
material for all the museums and collectors of the fabulous fall. The =
Field Museum should of course get many pieces, and I hope to god they =
get one of the house smashers for the beautiful collection display =
there. I was merely reporting first hand problems that arose to all of =
us trying to buy stones.=20
Mike Farmer
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jeff Grossman=20
  To: Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest


  Hi all. I am posting the following message to the List on behalf of =
Dr. Meenakshi Wadhwa, the Curator of Meteorites at the Field museum. =
-jeff
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  To Mike Farmer and List:

  Regarding statements concerning the Field Museum and relating to the =
recent meteorite fall in Park Forest:

  1. The Field Museum (or any representative thereof) has not made =
statements to the residents and/or Police of Park Forest concerning any =
meteorite dealers.

  2. The Field Museum (or any representative thereof) has not told =
anyone that the meteorites have to be donated or sold to The Field =
Museum.

  Anyone who wishes to further discuss these points may contact M. =
Wadhwa at The Field Museum (mwadhwa_at_fmnh.org). Please refer to this =
e-mail when discussing the role of the Museum in the recovery of the =
Park Forest fall in this list or any other public forum.

  Dr. Meenakshi Wadhwa
  Associate Curator, Meteoritics
  Department of Geology, The Field Museum
  1400 S. Lake Shore Dr., Chicago, Il, 60605
  Tel: (312) 665-7639 (office)
  (312) 665-7613/7617 (mass spec/clean chem labs)
  Fax: (312) 665-7641
  Email: mwadhwa_at_fieldmuseum.org
  http://fm1.fieldmuseum.org/aa/staff_page.cgi?staff=3Dwadhwa


  At 05:20 PM 3/28/2003 -0700, Michael Farmer wrote:

    Hello everyone, a little news from the strewnfield. The news is not =
good. The people here all think that they are millionaires, they all =
want $10 to $20 gram now. The police chief tols Steve Witt to leave or =
be arrested as they think he robbed a meteorite finder by paying several =
dollars per gram! The news has stated that they are worth $500 per ounce =
~$15 gram. The Museum in Chicago has not helped, stating that dealers =
are here to rip the locals off and that they should "donate all the =
pieces" to the university/museum.=20

  and, at 10:50 PM 3/28/2003 -0700, Michael Farmer wrote:


     We are all outraged at what has happened here.=20
    Ill explain more. The fact is that yesterday morning several pieces =
were sold for $1 gram, not an unfair price in the field, low but no big =
deal. Then the newspapers and news told everyone that the value is $500 =
per ounce! The Chicago Field Museum curator was telling the police that =
the people had to sell to them and not to any collectors. So now many =
people are going to the Field Museum tomorrow to sell their pieces to =
the museum. They are under the assumption that they must sell them there =
as that is what the local police is passing on. ...
    PS. Portales was a fun but stressful hunt, this one blows Portales =
to hell, people are very very unfriendly here, not all of course, but =
the Museum did dealers and collectors very wrong here with what they =
said, Ill be rethinking and dealings from now on with this type of bad =
press. I have donated over $100,000 in meteorites to museums, and now to =
have them telling people that all the dealers are here to rip them off =
really chaps my $%#$#$



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff, and Dr Wadhwa. I will just say =
this, whatever=20
the source, all of us here, Adam Hupe, Al Lang, Steve Witt, Gary Curtis, =
Al=20
Mitterling, Steve Arnold meteorite broker etc, have all heard various =
versions=20
of the same thing, from so many people here, and it seems to have =
originated in=20
the police department. So I do now know who started it, but what I said =
is being=20
passes around as the word of law to many people. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I would just hope =
that we could=20
all cooperate, there is plenty of material for all the museums and =
collectors of=20
the fabulous fall. The Field Museum should of course get many pieces, =
and I hope=20
to god they get one of the house smashers for the beautiful collection =
display=20
there. I was merely reporting first hand problems that arose to all of =
us trying=20
to buy stones. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djgrossman_at_usgs.gov href=3D"mailto:jgrossman@usgs.gov">Jeff =
Grossman</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3DMeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">Meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 29, 2003 =
5:05=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] =
Park=20
  Forest</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi all.&nbsp; I am posting the following message to the =
List on=20
  behalf of Dr. Meenakshi Wadhwa, the Curator of Meteorites at the Field =
museum.=20
  =
-jeff<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------=
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<BR>To=20
  Mike Farmer and List:<BR><BR>Regarding statements concerning the Field =
Museum=20
  and relating to the recent meteorite fall in Park Forest:<BR><BR>1. =
The Field=20
  Museum (or any representative thereof) has not made statements to the=20
  residents and/or Police of Park Forest concerning any meteorite=20
  dealers.<BR><BR>2. The Field Museum (or any representative thereof) =
has not=20
  told anyone that the meteorites have to be donated or sold to The =
Field=20
  Museum.<BR><BR>Anyone who wishes to further discuss these points may =
contact=20
  M. Wadhwa at The Field Museum (mwadhwa_at_fmnh.org). Please refer to this =
e-mail=20
  when discussing the role of the Museum in the recovery of the Park =
Forest fall=20
  in this list or any other public forum.<BR><BR>Dr. Meenakshi=20
  Wadhwa<BR>Associate Curator, Meteoritics<BR>Department of Geology, The =
Field=20
  Museum<BR>1400 S. Lake Shore Dr., Chicago, Il, 60605<BR>Tel: (312) =
665-7639=20
  (office)<BR>(312) 665-7613/7617 (mass spec/clean chem=20
  labs)<BR>Fax:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (312)=20
  665-7641<BR>Email:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mwadhwa_at_fieldmuseum.org<BR><A=20
  href=3D"http://fm1.fieldmuseum.org/aa/staff_page.cgi?staff=3Dwadhwa"=20
  =
eudora=3D"autourl">http://fm1.fieldmuseum.org/aa/staff_page.cgi?staff=3Dw=
adhwa</A><BR><BR><BR>At=20
  05:20 PM 3/28/2003 -0700, Michael Farmer wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>Hello=20
    everyone, a little news from the strewnfield. The news is not good. =
The=20
    people here all think that they are millionaires, they all want $10 =
to $20=20
    gram now. The police chief tols Steve Witt to leave or be arrested =
as they=20
    think he robbed a meteorite finder by paying several dollars per =
gram! The=20
    news has stated that they are worth $500 per ounce ~$15 gram. The =
Museum in=20
    Chicago has not helped, stating that dealers are here to rip the =
locals off=20
    and that they should "donate all the pieces" to the =
university/museum.=20
    </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>and, at 10:50 PM 3/28/2003 -0700, Michael =
Farmer=20
  wrote:<BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>&nbsp;We=20
    are all outraged at what has happened here. </FONT><BR><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
    size=3D2>Ill explain more. The fact is that yesterday morning =
several pieces=20
    were sold for $1 gram, not an unfair price in the field, low but no =
big=20
    deal. Then the newspapers and news told everyone that the value is =
$500 per=20
    ounce! The Chicago Field Museum curator was telling the police that =
the=20
    people had to sell to them and not to any collectors. So now many =
people are=20
    going to the Field Museum tomorrow to sell their pieces to the =
museum. They=20
    are under the assumption that they must sell them there as that is =
what the=20
    local police is passing on. </FONT><FONT =
face=3Darial>...</FONT><BR><FONT=20
    face=3Darial size=3D2>PS. Portales was a fun but stressful hunt, =
this one blows=20
    Portales to hell, people are very very unfriendly here, not all of =
course,=20
    but the Museum did dealers and collectors very wrong here with what =
they=20
    said, Ill be rethinking and dealings from now on with this type of =
bad=20
    press. I have donated over $100,000 in meteorites to museums, and =
now to=20
    have them telling people that all the dealers are here to rip them =
off=20
    really chaps my=20
  =
$%#$#$</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>___________________________________=
___________=20
  Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list=20
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