[meteorite-list] New group name for Olivine Diogenites
From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:21:10 2004 Message-ID: <026d01c35546$7f667a80$b4dbe60c_at_attbi.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_026A_01C3550B.D1D05B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Don and List Members, We received a great deal of input from list members regarding the naming = of this group and appreciate it greatly. After an exhaustive consensus = it appears the name Olivine Diogenite that was coined on the Antarctic = finds has stuck. The main thing is that scientists who were unaware of = this type of meteorite now know of its existence because of the two = recent finds from Northwest Africa. I addressed this issue in a = previous posting to the list so I will not go into great detail on this = post. It would have been nice to honor some pioneer in meteoritics but the = term"Olivine Diogenite" has been used in several publications so = changing the name now might cause more confusion regarding this new main = group. The cool thing is that this is being recognized as a new group = expanding the HED group to HEDO. The HED designation has not been = changed for centuries making this, in our opinion, a history making = event. =20 Again, thank you everybody who tried to help out in regards to this = subject. All the best, Adam HUpe =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: don j merchant=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Cc: don j merchant=20 Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 2:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New group name for Olivine Diogenites =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: don j merchant=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Cc: don j merchant=20 Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 5:04 AM Subject: Re: New group name for Olivine Diogenites ( Date corrected = ) =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: don j merchant=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Cc: don j merchant=20 Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 1:08 AM Subject: New group name for Olivine Diogenites Hi Adam, Greg, and List. I would like to propose my thoughts to several names for this new = meteorite group. Now that NWA 1877 has been determined to be the 5th = Olivine-Diogenite along with NWA 1459, ALHA-77252, EETA 79002, and GRA = 98108 we all have a chance to express our ideas of naming this new = group, which is very exciting. It is to my understanding that the HED = group comes from the same parent body most likely the asteroid = Vesta.Well how is this so known. It is known through the science of = spectroscopy discovered in 1859 by Gustav Robert Kirchhoff and Robert = Wilhelm Bunsen.With many thanks to Joeseph von Fraunhofer who observed = in the early 1800's that the continous spectrum was marred by over 700 = dark lines now called Fraunhofer lines. Lets not forget that the first = person to use the technique of spectroscopy to examine celestial objects = was William Huggins in 1863, but lets go back to where this truely = started and that was in 1666. By one of the most famous scientist of all = time. It was Sir Isaac Newton's discovery of the spectrum that all = advancements of spectoscopy are the underlying use of this important = discovery.It is through Spectroscopy that has helped determine the = composition of this HED group to the parent body Vesta, and other = meteorite parent bodies such as the asteroids Ceres, Pallas, Hebe, ect. = Though these scientists were not directly related to meteorites in = general, they have truely layed down the foundation for the study of = meteorites today. If not for spectroscopy we would not know where this = HED group came from as well as others in the first place. In fact if not = for spectroscopy this contest naming this new Olivine-Diogenite group = might not well exist!! I feel and it's only my opinion-that this group = be named for one of these great scientist's who should be honored for = their great achievment in helping today's scientist match parent bodies = to many of the meteorite's in our collections at home.So in closing and = in order from my first choice to last I propose to call this new group = NEWTONITES, then, FRAUNHOFERNITES, then KIRCHOFF-BUNSONITES, and last = but not least with special thanks to William Huggins for being the first = using the spectroscope toward the heavens. What an honor for him to have = this group call HUGGINITES. =20 Thanks all for your time. Don Merchant ------=_NextPart_000_026A_01C3550B.D1D05B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Don and List Members,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We received a great deal of input from = list members=20 regarding the naming of this group and appreciate it greatly. = After an=20 exhaustive consensus it appears the name Olivine Diogenite that was = coined on=20 the Antarctic finds has stuck. The main thing is that scientists = who were=20 unaware of this type of meteorite now know of its existence because of = the two=20 recent finds from Northwest Africa. I addressed this issue in a = previous=20 posting to the list so I will not go into great detail on this=20 post.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It would have been nice to honor some = pioneer in=20 meteoritics but the term"Olivine Diogenite" has been used in several=20 publications so changing the name now might cause more confusion = regarding this=20 new main group. The cool thing is that this is being recognized as = a new=20 group expanding the HED group to HEDO. The HED designation = has not=20 been changed for centuries making this, in our opinion, a history making = event. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Again, thank you everybody who tried to = help out in=20 regards to this subject.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All the best,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam HUpe</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:mtrent2_at_frontiernet.net" = title=3Dmtrent2_at_frontiernet.net>don j=20 merchant</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:mtrent2_at_frontiernet.net" = title=3Dmtrent2_at_frontiernet.net>don j=20 merchant</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 27, 2003 = 2:14 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] New = group name=20 for Olivine Diogenites</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:mtrent2_at_frontiernet.net" = title=3Dmtrent2_at_frontiernet.net>don j=20 merchant</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:mtrent2_at_frontiernet.net" = title=3Dmtrent2_at_frontiernet.net>don j=20 merchant</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 27, 2003 = 5:04=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: New group name = for Olivine=20 Diogenites ( Date corrected )</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:mtrent2_at_frontiernet.net" = title=3Dmtrent2_at_frontiernet.net>don=20 j merchant</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20 = title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr= al.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:mtrent2_at_frontiernet.net" = title=3Dmtrent2_at_frontiernet.net>don j=20 merchant</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 27, 2003 = 1:08=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> New group name for = Olivine=20 Diogenites</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20 = size=3D2> &nbs= p;  = ; = =20 Hi Adam, Greg, and List.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would like to propose my = thoughts to=20 several names for this new meteorite group. Now that NWA 1877 has = been=20 determined to be the 5th Olivine-Diogenite along with NWA 1459,=20 ALHA-77252, EETA 79002, and GRA 98108 we all have a chance to = express=20 our ideas of naming this new group, which is very exciting. It is = to my=20 understanding that the HED group comes from the same parent body = most=20 likely the asteroid Vesta.Well how is this so known. It is known = through=20 the science of spectroscopy discovered in 1859 by Gustav Robert = Kirchhoff=20 and Robert Wilhelm Bunsen.With many thanks to Joeseph von = Fraunhofer who=20 observed in the early 1800's that the continous spectrum was = marred by=20 over 700 dark lines now called Fraunhofer lines. Lets not forget = that the=20 first person to use the technique of spectroscopy to examine = celestial=20 objects was William Huggins in 1863, but lets go back to = where this=20 truely started and that was in 1666. By one of the most famous = scientist=20 of all time. It was Sir Isaac Newton's discovery of the spectrum = that all=20 advancements of spectoscopy are the underlying use of this = important=20 discovery.It is through Spectroscopy that has helped = determine the=20 composition of this HED group to the parent body Vesta, and = other=20 meteorite parent bodies such as the asteroids Ceres, = Pallas,=20 Hebe, ect. Though these scientists were not directly related to = meteorites=20 in general, they have truely layed down the foundation for = the study=20 of meteorites today. If not for spectroscopy we would not know = where this=20 HED group came from as well as others in the first place. In fact = if not=20 for spectroscopy this contest naming this new Olivine-Diogenite = group=20 might not well exist!! I feel and it's only my opinion-that this = group be=20 named for one of these great scientist's who should be honored for = their=20 great achievment in helping today's scientist match parent bodies = to many=20 of the meteorite's in our collections at home.So in closing and in = order=20 from my first choice to last I propose to call this new group = NEWTONITES,=20 then, FRAUNHOFERNITES, then KIRCHOFF-BUNSONITES, and last but not = least=20 with special thanks to William Huggins for being the = first using the=20 spectroscope toward the heavens. What an honor for him to have = this group=20 call HUGGINITES.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20 = size=3D2> &nbs= p;  = ; =20 Thanks all for your time.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20 = size=3D2> &nbs= p;  = ; = =20 Don = Merchant</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML= > ------=_NextPart_000_026A_01C3550B.D1D05B00-- Received on Mon 28 Jul 2003 04:26:14 PM PDT |
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