[meteorite-list] Nininger Moment (Nininger questions)

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From: Kevin Fly Hill <khill_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:17:48 2004
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"What were Nininger's comments on "Allende"...I am surprised it didn't =
make his book?"

Doug,
    I don't have my copy of "Catch a Falling Star" with me (it's on my =
nightstand at the house), but I am almost sure that it was published =
before Allende happened. I sure other's can give exact dates'
Fly Hill

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: MexicoDoug_at_aol.com=20
  To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 2:15 PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Nininger Moment (Nininger questions)

  Last night I visited a friend who had ... to my surprise ... found an =
original of the FIND A FALLING STAR book on his shelf. He gladly lent =
it to me on request, and last night rather than sleeping much I had a =
Nininger Moment.

  Has anyone ever recovered meteorites from the November 9, 1923 fall ?

  Where is the "crowbar" from the blacksmith from the Toluca fall =
presently?

  What is a ballpark worth of the collection he described as US $530,000 =
today?

  What happened to the American Meteorite Laboratory and its equipment?

  How many of "recognized" recoveries in the 20th century (1901-2000, or =
1900-1999, take your pick) were credited to Nininger? An estimate is OK =
if the tally of the total isn't yet known!

  Where can we see, online, cowboy Charlie Brown's famous fireball =
photo?

  Is the semantics of the word meteorite worked out yet? Is a rock in =
space a meteorite (Nininger calls it that, and makes no use of the term =
meteoroid)?

  Inspired:

  Do all oriented meteorites tend to a predictable "nose cone" shape? =
What is known about the resulting ablated shapes (hemisphere, =
hemi-ellipse, sum of them, other)?
  Are individual chondrules thought to be still floating around in =
space, and/or a significant part of the "dust" meteors observed outside =
of meteor showers (to remove the cometary particles)?

  What were Nininger's comments on "Allende"...I am surprised it didn't =
make his book?

  Is an Aerolite not an OK term in English for an iron? In French?

  Theoretically, how big of a piece of ice (perfect sphere) would be =
needed at a common entry velocity and angle and average atmospheric =
temp., hypothetically, if it didn't fracture, to not melt/vaporize and =
touch ground. For a rough idea...

  Related for fun:
  Should a meteorite impacting a satellite and subsequently recovered be =
called a meteorite? How about if it is an intentional probe (Stardust =
mission)? Are materials from the falls on Mars correctly called =
meteorites, or must they be Martian meteorites, Lunar, etc.

  Saludos
  Doug Dawn
  Mexico
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"What were Nininger's comments on =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Doug,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>    I don't have my copy =
of "Catch a=20
Falling Star" with me (it's on my nightstand at the house), but I am =
almost sure=20
that it was published before Allende happened.  I sure other's can =
give=20
exact dates'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fly Hill</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3DMexicoDoug_at_aol.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:MexicoDoug_at_aol.com">MexicoDoug@aol.com</A> </DIV>
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  title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 14, 2003 =
2:15=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] =
Nininger Moment=20
  (Nininger questions)</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
face=3DArial size=3D2=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Last night I visited a friend who had ... to my =
surprise=20
  ... found an original of the FIND A FALLING STAR book on his =
shelf.  He=20
  gladly lent it to me on request, and last night rather than sleeping =
much I=20
  had a Nininger Moment.<BR><BR>Has anyone ever recovered meteorites =
from the=20
  November 9, 1923 fall ?<BR><BR>Where is the "crowbar" from the =
blacksmith from=20
  the Toluca fall presently?<BR><BR>What is a ballpark worth of the =
collection=20
  he described as US $530,000 today?<BR><BR>What happened to the =
American=20
  Meteorite Laboratory and its equipment?<BR><BR>How many of =
"recognized"=20
  recoveries in the 20th century (1901-2000, or 1900-1999, take your =
pick) were=20
  credited to Nininger?  An estimate is OK if the tally of the =
total isn't=20
  yet known!<BR><BR>Where can we see, online, cowboy Charlie Brown's =
famous=20
  fireball photo?<BR><BR>Is the semantics of the word meteorite worked =
out=20
  yet?  Is a rock in space a meteorite (Nininger calls it that, and =
makes=20
  no use of the term meteoroid)?<BR><BR>Inspired:<BR><BR>Do all oriented =

  meteorites tend to a predictable "nose cone" shape?  What is =
known about=20
  the resulting ablated shapes (hemisphere, hemi-ellipse, sum of them,=20
  other)?<BR>Are individual chondrules thought to be still floating =
around in=20
  space, and/or a significant part of the "dust" meteors observed =
outside of=20
  meteor showers (to remove the cometary particles)?<BR><BR>What were =
Nininger's=20
  comments on "Allende"...I am surprised it didn't make his =
book?<BR><BR>Is an=20
  Aerolite not an OK term in English for an iron?  In=20
  French?<BR><BR>Theoretically, how big of a piece of ice (perfect =
sphere) would=20
  be needed at a common entry velocity and angle and average atmospheric =
temp.,=20
  hypothetically, if it didn't fracture, to not melt/vaporize and touch=20
  ground.  For  a rough idea...<BR><BR>Related for =
fun:<BR>Should a=20
  meteorite impacting a satellite and subsequently recovered be called a =

  meteorite?  How about if it is an intentional probe (Stardust=20
  mission)?  Are materials from the falls on Mars correctly called=20
  meteorites, or must they be Martian meteorites, Lunar,=20
  etc.<BR><BR>Saludos<BR>Doug Dawn<BR>Mexico</FONT>=20
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