[meteorite-list] Meteorite Consumption
From: Tom aka James Knudson <knudson911_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:17:46 2004 Message-ID: <015301c3c1d8$09f2a720$d0cc43d8_at_malcolm> Hello Rob and List, All this talk about meteorite consumption, well I had to give it a try! But, I found it depressing! Have any of you meteorite eaters experienced depression afterwards? I can't tell if it is an after effect or that it is that I just ate my favorite 78g Bensour whole? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier <>< Yea, that's right, The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168 ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Wesel <nakhladog_at_comcast.net> To: Sterling K. Webb <kelly_at_bhil.com>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:48 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Consumption > I have a 40 gram vial of Camel Donga that is powdered to the consistency of > corn starch (for, I believe, refraction studies) that I occasionally break > out for eating straight or mixing up a cosmic cocktail. > > The Moon...no. Vesta...yes. > > I find it strangely satisfying to commune with the cosmos in such a way. > Carcinogenesis aside, I recommend it to anyone to take a nibble and see if > it doesn't evoke a greater sense of reverence. > > I have enjoyed Mbale (do what the Romans do) and Zagami (at the suggestion > of fellow list member and friend Dave Harris, who has also eaten Zagami > along with his three sons for the sake of Mars appreciation) as well , but > found them gritty...go figure. I can also speak for list member Mark > Ferguson as we ate some Camel Donga together. And while we are at it, Dave > Harris' infant son teethed on a Krinov labeled Sikhote-Alin. > > We are made from stars to begin with, everything is, and we are what we eat > so they say. > > I will bring some Camel Donga to Tucson for anyone who wants a sprinkle. > > Rob Wesel > ------------------ > We are the music makers... > and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sterling K. Webb" <kelly_at_bhil.com> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> > Cc: <MexicoDoug_at_aol.com>; <cviau@beld.net> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:47 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Cutting Meteorites > > > > Hi, > > > > We're talking here about the bodily incorporation of > > extra-terrestial material, whether by aspiration or ingestion. On the > > other hand, when Kim Stanley Robinson, the author of the Mars Trilogy > > (Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars), finished the 12,000 manuscript pages > > and sent them to the publisher for the final publication, he sat on the > > roof of his house at dawn and ATE A ZAGAMI! Having metaphorically > > digested Mars, he thought it appropriate to partially metabolize the > > actual planet. (It was a small Zagami and it was powdered.) > > OK, 'fess up! Has anybody on the List taken a tiny nibble of the > > MOON? > > > > > > Sterling K. Webb > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > MexicoDoug_at_aol.com wrote: > > > > > Bob - Not Chondrite Lung disease. Just Garden variety lung and nasal > > > cancer. > > > > > > CharlyV - First my geocities site has gremlins, and now Bob M. can't > > > do his hobby in peace without fear of catching some fierce E.T. > > > disease...you're a real hypochondrite, man !! > > > > > > Just joking Charly, for what it's worth I'm a chemist, and CharlyV is > > > right on (Peace). > > > > > > According to the American EPA (see link), it is a linear response > > > relating refinery dust (includes sulfides), if your breathe it > > > chronically you will have one in 10,000 odds, at 0.0000004 grams per > > > cubic meter of air. That is considered quite large by toxicologists > > > (chemist usually don't read the instructions, so chemists aren't > > > usually of much help...their life spans are on the average 10 years > > > less, too, really, and lets not look at the last years of quality). > > > So it is a recognized human carcinogen. > > > > > > They further say it is a linear cause effect relationship and show > > > some epidimological numbers. Which roughly translate that snorting > > > 0.000146 grams per cubic meter of air for just one day of the year > > > having the same 1 in 10,000 results. Or looked at another way: The > > > average person breathes about 8 cubic meters of air per day. These > > > odds are for 1.17 mg total breathed in in one day. At 0.117 gram per > > > day of Ni dust, one day a year...you have 1 in a 100 chance. of > > > getting these cancers. Or at least one person on this list. My > > > extrapolations are not rigorous...but they shouldn't be unfounded, > > > either. > > > > > > Did Nininger live to be 99 years old? Goes to show that individual > > > response and statistics are two separate issues...but a dust mask is > > > definity a good idea. Enough people get colon cancer from eating > > > barbecued and smoked foods, to make it believable that ingesting > > > burnt out stardust has a lot of inorganic nasties besides just > > > worrying about nickel. One could always drop cutting and polishing > > > for rose-garden tending...or just not breath that interplanetary and > > > intergalactic dust in. Its not the same stuff Tinkerbell blows magic > > > spells with...even though its nice to let the imagination run... > > > > > > http://www.epa.gov/iris/subst/0272.htm > > > > > > (this is the closest match the EPA has investigated.) > > > > > > Saludos > > > Doug Dawn > > > Mexico > > > > > > En un mensaje con fecha 12/12/2003 11:36:54 PM Mexico Standard Time, > > > cviau_at_beld.net escribe: > > > > > > > > >> Asunto: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Cutting Meteorites > > >> Fecha: 12/12/2003 11:36:54 PM Mexico Standard Time > > >> De: cviau_at_beld.net > > >> Para: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > > >> Enviado por Internet > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Yes, but only for a dremmel. You pro's cut with big equipment and > > >> use > > >> liquid > > >> Coolants that must trap all of the dust. A dremmel using a cutting > > >> wheel > > >> really puts out a lot of dust in the air. Not being a chemist, I do > > >> think that airborne nickel dust might be poisonous... A dust mask > > >> cannot > > >> be a bad idea. > > >> > > >> CharlyV > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com > > >> [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bob > > >> Martino > > >> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:03 PM > > >> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > > >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Cutting Meteorites > > >> > > >> CharlyV points out that one should always use a dust mask when > > >> cutting > > >> meteorites. > > >> > > >> Great. As if my life wasn't complicated enough, now my hobby has a > > >> new > > >> hazard associated with it: > > >> > > >> "Chondrite Lung Disease" > > >> > > >> ----- > > >> Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ > > >> > > >> Can you really name a star? Read the Truth! > > >> http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/ > > >> . > > >> > > >> >Subject: FW: [meteorite-list] Cutting Meteorites > > >> > > > >> >This response got lost somehow. re-posted here, likely an > > >> attachment > > >> in > > >> >thread exceeded text size limit.. > > >> > > > >> >The Dremmel diamond blades are nice, but don't use them on irons or > > >> > > >> even > > >> >H chondrites. They just cannot take the punishment and your $15 or > > >> $20 > > >> >goes up in smoke in a few small slices. (even with lube). Believe > > >> that > > >> >the #420 cutoff wheels (tungsten carbide with quartz) used with > > >> >paraffin work better. Try it yourself. You also get 20 for about > > >> $4.00, > > >> >good for a lot of cuts, and remember to use that candle. (oh. and > > >> eye > > >> >protection and a silk scarf over your nose/mouth or one of those > > >> cheap > > >> >construction dust masks.) > > >> > > > >> >CharlyV > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Received on Sat 13 Dec 2003 07:20:09 PM PST |
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