[meteorite-list] Note on meteorite descriptions.
From: Michel Franco <michel_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:17:44 2004 Message-ID: <004401c3bff3$b53ae5c0$f0e7f851_at_cailloubi12zzr> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C3BFFC.16B7BD70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TKS Jim All your ansewer makes sense.=20 <Should be obvious to the casual observer or the term "flight marked" = should be used. > This can be a real rule and easy for all ! The term flight marked is not often used, am I right? I will use it now. = Best regards=20 Michel FRANCO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Strope=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Note on meteorite descriptions. My opinion on your points........... A - I would term the mere presence of flow lines as saying that the = meteorite was "flight marked" but not necessarily Oriented. B - I don't think that the absence of fusion crust would mean that a = specimen could not be Oriented. An example would be the famous "King of = Irons" Gibeon. In my opinion, Orientation refers to shape also. C- Yes, I believe that the elongation of regmaglypts is a sign of = possible orientation. When this is combined with a flat bottom with a = roll over rim the signs of Orientation are even more convincing. I think the real test of orientation is when you can look at the piece = and actually visualize the direction of flight. I have seen many photos = on ebay described as oriented where I ask myself - "Oriented in what = direction?" Orientation should be obvious to the casual observer or the term = "flight marked" should be used. Best Wishes to all.............. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteorites http://www.catchafallingstar.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michel Franco=20 To: Michael Farmer ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 3:24 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Note on meteorite descriptions. Michael, Jim, Matteo, list, This is an interesting thread.=20 I think it should be developped. And I have questions for experts = like you guys.=20 A: Does the presence of some flow lines is enough to say that a = meteorite is oriented ? B. Does a meteorite with conical shape ( approx similar to Bob Haag = Venus cone ) but without any crust ( due to a long stay on earth surface = before find) can be said oriented . C: When thumbprints have a particular elliptical shape with a = depressed side and a rim on the other side, is it a sign of = orientation.?=20 Best regards Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C3BFFC.16B7BD70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>TKS Jim</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All your ansewer makes sense. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> <Should be obvious to the casual observer or the term = "flight=20 marked" should be used. ></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This can be a real rule and easy for all = !</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The term flight marked is not often = used, am I=20 right? I will use it now. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michel FRANCO</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Djim_at_catchafallingstar.com = href=3D"mailto:jim_at_catchafallingstar.com">Jim=20 Strope</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 11, = 2003 1:13=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = Note on=20 meteorite descriptions.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>My opinion on your points...........</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A - I would term the mere presence of flow lines as saying = that the=20 meteorite was "flight marked" but not necessarily Oriented.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>B - I don't think that the absence of fusion crust would mean = that a=20 specimen could not be Oriented. An example would be the famous = "King of=20 Irons" Gibeon. In my opinion, Orientation refers to shape = also.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>C- Yes, I believe that the elongation of regmaglypts is a sign of = possible orientation. When this is combined with a flat bottom = with a=20 roll over rim the signs of Orientation are even more convincing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think the real test of orientation is when you can look at the = piece=20 and actually visualize the direction of flight. I have seen many = photos=20 on ebay described as oriented where I ask myself - "Oriented in what=20 direction?"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Orientation should be obvious to the casual observer or the term = "flight=20 marked" should be used.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best Wishes to all..............</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jim Strope<BR>421 Fourth Street<BR>Glen Dale, WV = 26038</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Catch a Falling Star Meteorites<BR><A=20 = href=3D"http://www.catchafallingstar.com">http://www.catchafallingstar.co= m</A><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dmichel_at_caillou-noir.com=20 href=3D"mailto:michel_at_caillou-noir.com">Michel Franco</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteoritehunter_at_comcast.net=20 href=3D"mailto:meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net">Michael Farmer</A> ; <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 11, = 2003 3:24=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = Note on=20 meteorite descriptions.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michael, Jim, Matteo, = list,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is an interesting thread. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it should be = developped. And I=20 have questions for experts like you guys. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A: Does the presence of some flow = lines is=20 enough to say that a meteorite is oriented ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>B. Does a meteorite with conical = shape ( approx=20 similar to Bob Haag Venus cone ) but without any crust ( due to a = long stay=20 on earth surface before find) can be said oriented .</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>C: When = thumbprints have a=20 particular elliptical shape with a depressed side and a rim on = the=20 other side, is it a sign of orientation.? </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michel FRANCO</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Caillou Noir</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C3BFFC.16B7BD70-- Received on Thu 11 Dec 2003 09:33:13 AM PST |
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