[meteorite-list] Re: A Sign From Above (Sylacauga Meteorite)

From: Kevin Fly Hill <khill_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:17:38 2004
Message-ID: <001001c3b9aa$7528e8a0$6d00a8c0_at_coxinternet.com>

Thanks for the reply -- Our cultural references and derivations are of
interest to me. I've seen "Dutch", but only as a nickname for someone of
Tectonic extraction. My wife's heritage is actually Moravian and settled in
central Texas -- specifically LaGrange area -- Remember "Best Little
Whorehouse in Texas". That area has recovered 3 different meteorites --
Cedar (1,2,3,4?), Bluff (1,2) and Round Top. One of the Cedar's came off of
the farm next door to my wife's grandparents farm. [needed to segway this
back to meteorites somehow]

Fly Hill

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sterling K. Webb" <kelly_at_bhil.com>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Cc: "Kevin Fly Hill" <khill_at_cpsmedical.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: A Sign From Above (Sylacauga Meteorite)


> Hi,
>
> I can't believe I forgot to include Bubbas and crackers and white
trash!
> Cedar choppers I didn't know about until now. In southern Illinois, all
Germans
> are called "Dutch," a corruption of Deutsche that arose during World War I
as a
> polite circumvention. We are nothing if not polite.
> Yes, only Czechs are Bohemians, but not all Czechs are Bohemians, and
prior
> to 1915, Bohemia was a separate country. I run an antique store and I had
a vase
> with a portrait of Crown Princess Louisa (for whom the German gunboat in
the
> Movie The African Queen was named), and it was stamped "Bohemia" on the
bottom.
> The person who bought it was excited to find something marked
"Bohemia"
> because their great-grandparents had come from there when it still was a
> separate country. They were from Benld (where the first car-smasher
meteorite
> fell in 1938) and they were a lot more excited about the vase than if they
had
> found a spare piece of the meteorite.
> I told them that if they found a heavy dark rock while digging in
their
> garden, they should call me...
>
> Sterling
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Kevin Fly Hill wrote:
>
> > To further clarify classifications --
> >
> > #1 - In Florida -- That's Cracker - not Redneck. Derived from the whips
> > they carried at one time as a weapon of choice.
> > #2 - In Central Texas there are Cedar Choppers with Bubba's and Rednecks
> > spreading out to the rest of the state. Cedar Chopper is a specific
> > designate in the area of Texas where cedar trees are abundant and are
turned
> > into fence posts and is used to describe the indigenous peoples that
perform
> > that duty. Similar in life style to a Hillbilly.
> > #3 - The non-specific but generally considered - White Trash. A term
that
> > if used at most family gatherings in East Texas can get you labeled as
> > "uppity" or a "high falutn' snoot"
> > #4 - In Texas, at least, only Czechs are Bohemians, Germans are Square
> > Heads - (note: married to the former and being the latter - this is a
fact)
> >
> > Most Curious Listener
> > Fly Hill
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sterling K. Webb" <kelly_at_bhil.com>
> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Cc: "RYAN PAWELSKI" <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: A Sign From Above (Sylacauga
Meteorite)
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The term "hicks" refers to the inhabitants of Hicksville, New
York,
> > located on Long Island, which was once (a century ago) a totally rural
> > environment. Hicksville, which is on the end of Long Island nearest to
New
> > York City, had its quiet rural
> > > existence immortalized by George M. Cohan's long-ago hit song "Only 45
> > Minutes From Broadway." So, by extension, a "hick" has become a term for
any
> > inhabitant of a small town or rural area, wherever located.
> > >
> > > A "hillbilly," though more easily found in those Appalachian (and
> > Ozarkian) states (and West Virginia and Missouri and western North
Carolina,
> > etc.), is essentially a cultural classification, so members of that
group
> > could be found anywhere. That
> > > culture is nothing more or less than the general rural culture of the
US
> > in times past, now surviving only in mountainous enclaves. Eighty years
ago,
> > "hillbilly" would have applied to a much wider area of the South and
parts
> > of the Mid-West, and a
> > > century and a half ago would have well described about half to
two-thirds
> > of the population of the US.
> > >
> > > And "redneck" is originally a term for a non-industrialized
> > agricultural worker. As there are very few folks out hoeing cotton by
hand
> > these days, the term is widely applied in those areas where they used to
be
> > numerous (like Alabama). Although I
> > > live in rural Illinois (not Alabama), there are plenty of folk about
whose
> > necks are literally red from a lifetime spent in farm fields before
tractors
> > had air conditioned cabs, GPS, laptop computers, stereos, and tinted
glass.
> > All those "rednecks"
> > > would also be "hicks" by definition (non-urban populace) and some of
them
> > would be "hillbillies" too, although some would instead be German,
Italian,
> > Polish or "Bohemian" in cultural origin.
> > >
> > > The English article, of course, was not about hillbillies, hicks,
or
> > rednecks; it was about stereotypes. More exactly, the English version of
> > stereotypes and is riddled with errors. Can you imagine an Alabama
county
> > that had only ONE frog-gigger?
> > > The term "cattywampus" is dialectically wrong; it should be
"cattywhumpus"
> > or "cattywompus." Miz Hodges sez "As sure as grits is grits," when any
fan
> > of country music could tell you this expression should be in the form of
a
> > comparative, as: "If I doan
> > > love you, then grits ain't groceries!"
> > >
> > > Perhaps somebody should write an American parody about a famous
> > English fall, like Wold Cottage?
> > >
> > >
> > > Sterling K. Webb
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> > > RYAN PAWELSKI wrote:
> > >
> > > > Actually, there is no such thing as an Alabama "hick", there are
only
> > "rednecks" in Alabama. Just to clear things up, the following are the
three
> > different subgroups of the of the "subclassy" society, better known as
> > hicks, hillbillys, and rednecks:
> > > >
> > > > Hicks: Found in Midwestern states such as Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin,
> > Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio.
> > > >
> > > > Hillbillys (mountains or hills): Found in Appalachian and Ozark
states
> > such as Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas (Or "Our Kansas", because the
> > hillbilly founders were jealous that Kansas had a "too-cool-for-school"
> > name).
> > > >
> > > > Rednecks (from hot southern sun): Found in south, southwestern, and
> > southeastern states such as Texas, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona,
Louisiana,
> > Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe Jeff Foxworthy should write a word collection with all this
here
> > information in it!
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, hope I helped ya'll in decipherin' them terms!
> > > >
> > > > -Ryan
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
Received on Wed 03 Dec 2003 09:33:44 AM PST